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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Stanford (I went to GSB there) has more DI athletes where they can bend the rules, so it's hardly apples to apples with regards to test scores.  [b]Sorry to break it to you, but Pomona is not competing regularly against the likes of JHU and other top privates for candidates you dimwit.  [/b]It's winning more against other LACs with a weaker candidate pool.

So no way Pomona's own literature is wrong right?

https://www.pomona.edu/sites/default/files/pomona-college-admissions-profile.pdf

Are the admins as dumb as the students?

You can blame themselves for the CDS discrepancy.

As for JHU, it has higher ranked students versus Vandy, and does not do ED II which Vandy and Pomona both do.

If you go look at the more recent JHU's CDS, it is inline with reported stats.  SAT has been around 1400 to 1560 (before recentering) for the past 3 years now.

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I'm a guidance counselor who advises several students who are considering Pomona. They usually apply alongside the top Ivies, top 20s, Stanford, Berkeley, etc. In my experience, half of the admits end up picking Pomona, and the other half almost always goes to HYPS (Yale and Stanford I've seen a TON). Other top 20 schools are a wash and most of the admits who pick Pomona do turn down at least one other top 20 university (especially Rice, Vanderbilt, and WashU).

Haven't seen many who apply to both Pomona and JHU, but according to one source, Parchment, the percent picking either is flat at 50%.

You can play around with the numbers with Pomona and other schools. HYPS is around 80/20 in favor of the former. UPenn/Columbia/UChicago/Georgetown are at 45-60%. Duke/Brown/Dartmouth is at 36-40% picking Pomona.  WashU/Northwestern/Cornell/Rice/Vanderbilt/UVA are 64-77% picking Pomona. USC/UCLA/Berkeley is 80%+ picking Pomona. The top SLACs like Bowdoin, Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore all range from 50-56% picking Pomona.

The only school that seems to reliably be picked by applicants over Pomona is HYPS. That'd be true for all the other non-HYPS top private schools as well. Is what you mentioned true? I don't think so, not from my experience at least.

Also, Pomona is big on its commitment to diversity. They have one of the highest percent of first-gen/low income students of any elite school, a super high URM percent, and they actively draw from Posse (non-traditional students)/QuestBridge. Some 30% of their class is D3 athlete recruited in ED. All are groups which don't test as highly. I always tell my students not to take the entering stats at face value- the students at the bottom 50% are largely hooked students. You need to have high grades to get in no matter whom you are.

Another source seems to suggest that Pomona may have upped the ante in looking for high testing students this year: https://www.pomona.edu/news/2018/03/16-introducing-pomona-college-class-2022

[quote]Ninety-five percent of those who attend high schools that rank are in the top decile. The median SAT scores are 735 for Evidence-Based Reading and Writing (EBRW) and 760 for math. The median ACT score is 34.[/quote]

Compare to 2021: https://www.pomona.edu/news/2017/03/17-pomona-college-receives-record-breaking-number-applications-class-2021

[quote] From high schools that rank, 92.3 percent of admitted students are in the top decile of their class. Median SAT scores are 730 critical reading, 740 math and 730 writing. The median ACT is 33.[/quote][/quote]

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