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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There's a significant chunk of Americans who will never leave the state, let alone the country.

As others have pointed out, affordability is another reason but international travel has gotten a lot cheaper, you can find airfares to Paris on WOW Airlines for example for probably $300 roundtrip when you include a bag. There's Airbnb so you don't have to pay $700 for a hotel. There's tour groups that build your itinerary for you and have payment plans. IDK...I get it, but some are making it out to seem like a Europe team will cost you 10K. [/quote]

I don't think I've see roundtrip to Europe for $300 in nearly 20 years. Please show me where and when that is happening.[/quote]

A base fare from DC to Paris (off peak season) on WOW Air is about $380. It would be a little over $400 when you include a bag or a carryon. The problem I see, and I see it from my friends, they pay $1600 for a big airline like United or Air France, they stay at a hotel chain like the Sheraton or Hilton and then eat at the most expensive restaurants. Of course that trip will be expensive. [/quote]

I don't really want to fly on a super budget airline and stay in a a Paris youth hostel and eat baguettes for dinner in the park with my 6 year old ... For that same amount of money I can fly to say Denver and hike in the Rockies, no passport required.  [/quote]

You're proving my point, the mindset that you have to spend X amount of dollars to have a good time. I've never eaten baguettes or had to stay in a youth hostel and I have traveled on budget airlines. [/quote]

What is the "mindset" that you seem to think is so important? I've traveled and lived abroad plenty.  Now, I'm in a different position, where I need to take cheaper, more child-friendly trips, and also usually try to visit family during the trips.  [/quote]

Basically I laid out how you can go cheap on a trip and you equated it to staying at a youth hostel and having to eat baguettes. You're implying, whether consciously or subconsciously that b/c one can't be on a United Airlines flight that they can't afford a decent meal. It's a theme that's consistent in this thread that everything is too expensive, etc. Not necessarily from you, but just a general consensus. [/quote]

[b]Ok, what kind of 2-bedroom accommodations can I rent in Paris for $100-$150/night?[/b]  [/quote]

Airbnb, without question. I've done it.

My issue with this thread and with a lot of people in real life, is that people make assumptions. European and Asian vacations don't have to be budget busters. I can't tell you how many times I have spoken with people who vacation at Disney 1-2 times a year, but then scoff at my Euro/S Amer/Asian trips. Guess who spent less money?[/quote]

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