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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why does a child get extra time if the whole basis of the ACT  test is quick thinking and time management? Do they get like 10 extra minutes or like an hour?

My DD has a class of 79 kids and 23 are on accommodations. That is just ridiculous. I hope they have to disclose they are on accommodations. Do colleges give extra time? Do jobs and bosses give extra time? I mean come on. [/quote]

Neither schools nor ACT/SAT are allowed to disclose accomodations. These kids go on to elite schools where they are once again legally obligated to receive accomodations. [/quote]

And how does this work in the real word?  :roll: [/quote]

In the real world you aren't required to take a test on a time crunch.  You have deadlines and ask for extensions when needed.  That's the real world.  Signed, an high successful adult diagnosed with ADHD[/quote]

You are saying people on Wall Street, lawyers, doctors, business managers, engineers, etc... don’t have time crunches?  They ask for deadlines because they can’t focus all the time?  Yeah, okay. [/quote]

So you [b]are saying a kid who has ADHD and got accommodations would never be able to be a lawyer, doctor, business manager, or engineer?[/b]

The real world is not a timed test for 50 minutes.  In the real world, a person can choose the occupation that suits him or her and that utilizes that person's natural aptitudes.  The real world is not giving the same test to the entire population.  I am sure a very successful lawyer with ADHD who is weak in math would not have chosen a profession in computer science or engineering.  Just as an statistician with ADHD who is weak in memorization would not have chosen a career in law.  My kid has ADHD, although not severe.  He happens to be gifted in math, so I am not worried about his prospects. I have every confidence he will be great at whatever field he chooses, but in the meantime, he will continue to use his accommodations in high school and college.[/quote]

Probably not, no.[/quote]

Under normal circumstances, no. Someone with ADHD could not keep up with the pace of the education or the career. However, someone who does not actually suffer from ADHD and is merely gaining a diagnosis and accomodations to rise above the middle of the pack would do just fine. It’s part of the “everyone gets a trophy” culture. Does everyone need top scores and grades, followed by an elite education to have a great career? Obviously not, but everyone wants that for their kid. The issue is that people learn differently, people naturally excel at some things and not others, and until recently, those characteristics actually helped people find a career that they were naturally good at. But now, if you’re getting As in everything but Cs in math, that is seen as a disability and something that can be fixed with meds and accomodations.

The issue is further complicated by the fact that on paper, these kids who don’t axtuallu need accomodations look better than the kids who just worked hard to get the best grades they could. [/quote]

I find this mindset fascinating.  To assume that every kid who has a legitimate diagnosis will be disadvantaged for life and no prospects for a fruitful career is just ignorant.

Let's take a look at some famous people with ADHD:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dalearcher/2014/05/14/adhd-the-entrepreneurs-superpower/#41ab26ad59e9
https://www.elitedaily.com/money/10-successful-people-adhd
http://addadult.com/add-education-center/famous-people-with-adhd/

1. Walt Disney
2. Michael Phelps
3. Justin Timberlake
4. Jim Carrey
5. David Neeleman (founder of Jet Blue)
6. John F. Kennedy
7. Will Smith
8. Richard Branson (British business magnate)
9. Michael Jordan
10. Albert Einstein
11. James Carville
12. Glen Beck
13. Paul Orfalea, Founder of Kinko's
14. Ingvar Kamprad, Founder of Ikea
15. Many many famous actors, athletes, and other celebrities -- I could go on and on[/quote]

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