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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Red shirting is not a new phenomenon.  People have been doing this for 30-40 years (that I'm aware of - I have teachers in my family and kids that "started K late").  Relatively middle-middle class family.  We also did this with two DS.

Most teachers will say it can't hurt, and if you're unsure, to do it.  [/quote]

I'm 40 and the only kids who were held back were the ones who failed the grade.  We have a fall kid and we sent him early.  He also does sports.  Sports go by age, not grade so being younger has its advantages.  Kids who start the sport younger clearly have an advantage.  Mine started it about 2 years later and is much slower but catching up.  Most of the really good kids have private coaches as well, which we started to do.  There is usually more to it all once you actually look into it.  It makes no sense to hold kids back.[/quote]

Thanks for your completely uniformed opinion.  Nobody cares that your fall kid was ready and did great. Those of us considering redshirting do it because there's a specific reason for concern.  And personally I've never met anyone whose concern was limited to sports (either way).  BTW part of the idea behind redshirting is to prevent kids from failing the grade later on.  Doesn't necessarily always work out that way and the data may not support it, but the REASON some people redshirt is to give the child more time to be ready for kindergarten, which is universally understood to be more "rigorous" than 35 years ago when you were in K.  [/quote]

Again, this makes no sense.  If you are concerned your child will fall behind you spend the money and get them tutoring (or work with them yourself) and therapies to address the issues to make sure they are more successful.  K. is not rigorous.  Its parents who don't prepare their kids and whine about how rigorous it is.  And, yes, I have a SN kid and yes, we spent a huge sum of money on therapies to get our child to the point they are at to make sure they are successful.  If your non-special needs kid cannot cut it in K. at age 5, you need to get them fully evaluated and into therapies to support them as you lose the gift of time as the longer you wait to get your kid the help they need, the harder it is for those therapist to work.[/quote]

You can do therapies AND give an extra year in preschool.  it's not an either/or situation.  and for social skills, there's really no substitute for extra time for some kids.  [/quote]

Most kids who are redshirted/held back aren't do therapies or social skill classes.  They are being held back to get better test scores to get into the gifted programs or for sports.  If we held my kid back, he easily would have made gifted since we work at home but he's borderline.  I'd rather him be in regular where he fits better than hold him back with kids over a year younger and slower academics.  Even now, elementary school is slow.  I could not imagine holding him back.[/quote]

:roll: No, that's not true.  Kids who are redshirted (or repeat K) likely have specific concerns about maturity and ability. not to "get better test scores"  (b/c wtf, even in our hard-core K, there aren't test scores that determine anything yet). [/quote]

Ummm... how do you explain people (teachers, administrators, etc) who have NEVER met your kid or asked any questions about your kid other than if their birthday is close to the age cut off who say to hold them back? It is FALSE that most people are holding their kid back due to special needs or concerns about their abilities. 
Kids are being [i]held back[/i] because they are not going [i]on time[/i][/quote]

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