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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I completely understand the need to ensure due process and protection of all citizens, even that idiot Trump. I realize these things take time. However, in the meantime, Trump and his minions are making significant inroads in judicial appointments that will negatively affect the lives of my children, long after I am gone.

So I just have to ask again why this is taking so long? I am a not a lawyer, so please don't flame me. Moreover, if Trump/Pence and others are potentially removed from office at some point, do these judicial appointments still stand? If the election of this administration was achieved through treasonous acts, will the actions of this administration be allowed to stand?

These are serious questions I have. I honestly want to know what is taking so long and what recourse do Americans have if our president has committed treason?[/quote]
His judicial appointments can be impeached, I believe. And should be.[/quote]

Woah. Liberal lawyer here.  And I’m pissed about the appointments.  And any judicial nominees that get caught up in probe should be. But you garden variety super conservative judge who has themselves done nothing wrong?  No they can’t be.  And shouldn’t be.  The standard is high crimes and misdemeanors. By the judge. Not Trump. I get. The anger. And I feel the anger. But going down the path of impeaching judges who have been confirmed by the Senate and not committed a crime is unconstitutional.  [/quote]

I doubt you’re really a liberal.

Moderate lawyer. If trump is proven by clear and convincing evidence to have won the election by fraud, I would support removal of his judges. Pence can re-nominate if he chooses. I doubt the Republicans in Congress would have the guts to go that direction though. [/quote]

No.  I’m an actual liberal.  But the only provision in the constitution is impeachment.  And impeachment requires the Judge to have committed a crime.  Remember that Rrump didn’t unilaterally appoint these guys. The Senate was supposed to serve as a check on the president, in exactly this type of situation. The problem here is that Congress didn’t do their job. But the constitutional process was followed to put these guys on the bench.  And there is a constitutional process to remove them.  You can’t make up your own process as you go along.

I can be liberal and still strongly believe that you don’t violate the constitution.

Also, you may doubt I a liberal. But I doubt you are a lawyer. If you were, you would know that the criminal burden of proof  is beyond a reasonable doubt. Way IG her than clearly and convincing. In fact, if you watch Law and Order you should know this. And you would also know that we will never know whether Trump won this election by fraud. Fraud isn’t really the crime at issue. And we will never know if collusion with an enemy power swung the election. If no votes were actually changed, the Truth is we don’t know how people would have voted without Russian interference. [/quote]
And I think that if he is proven guilty of treason, that is reason enough to undo as much as is legally possible. It is arguably the only ethical thing to do, especially if it is proven that votes were changed. I’m not a lawyer, I don’t claim to be one, but treason must not be rewarded. (And it's "whoa," by the way.)[/quote]

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