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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This profile isn't all that different from 20 years ago. When I got into H I had:
* 3 sports, captain in one, multiple year coach's award in another
* Major statewide competition winner 2 years running
* President of National Honor Society
* Class president
* Don't remember GPA, but it was good
* SAT: 800 V, 690 M, 800 W
* Founder of one school club, officer in others

The only thing I don't remember was counting community service hours. That seems new to me. Although if it had been a thing, I would have had a lot.

I know that admissions for HYPS+ have become somewhat more competitive. But I don't buy that it's an order of magnitude difference, or that "the profile" is an unreasonable or superhuman ask.[/quote]
Wow, that's a crappy math score.[/quote]
It is a crappy math score.

And the resume above is nothing - kids like that are a dime a dozen these days. Places like Harvard and Dtanford reject the vast majority of kids with this profile. Kids like this these days go someplace like Wash U[/quote]
The majority of kids with those profiles were also rejected 20 years ago; that's the point.  It's harder to get into these schools today, but unlikely an order of magnitude harder.  Here are my stats from the 90s: 1520 SAT (can't recall ACT), Student Council President, highest or second highest GPA at a competitive private school, placed in state Chem Olympiad, 2 seasons of sports and varsity in one of them but nothing distinguishing, newspaper editor and a couple state awards for writing features, piano since 4th grade but nothing distinguishing, first student to be an asst. director for school play and musical just because I asked to do it, led an annual holiday giving program at school, started an advocacy organization within the school, art & sculpture classes throughout HS but nothing distinguishing, Odyssey of the Mind, all the APs available except one, and maybe a couple other minor things as well.  I intended to major in a STEM field, and my application likely said that (I can't remember for sure).  I now have a PhD in that field, also from an HYPS school. I'm also Indian-American, so very likely subject to quotas.

I got into 2 HYPS schools, waitlisted at another, and didn't apply to the fourth.  While not everyone at the school I ended up going to had a resume like mine, most were more similar than not.  I don't know anything about the girls listed in the OP, but I would argue that based on the list OP provided the biggest difference between them and me is that a couple of their activities seem to be centered outside of school instead of through school.  My parents both worked and had 3 kids, so sending us to a private school with a lot of opportunities and activities was strategic on their part.  They would never have been able to manage our having separate activities that they needed to take us to.  [/quote]

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