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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I work at DHS. I think the EO is disgusting but dhs employees are being put in an impossible decision. I heard there were cBP and tsa agents crying at dulles last night. The average employee of the federal government depends on their superiors to know what they are legally supposed to do. If they were getting one message from their bosses and one from the press?

When. The DAPA injunction came down department leadership immediately instructed compliance. IMO our ire should be directed at dhs leadership not customs officers who are not legal experts[/quote]

Crying?[/quote]

Yes. Is it so hard to believe that some of them are human beings getting conflicting advice from 10 different sources and feeling shitty allot detaining a 5 year old?[/quote]

+1. I'm a fed who is no fan of Trump's, but I feel the foot soldiers' pain. They were handed this unenforceable piece of shit EO and told to immediately enforce it, but not given any directions as to how.  They are given conflicting orders, and no clarification. Most people do not want to put an eledely refugee or a 5 year old back on a plane. They have their boss stressed out because he is getting conflicting orders and no guidance. You have the President telling yo to do one thing. The Courts telling you to do another. TV weighing in TPP. And you never read Marbury v. Madison.  All the protestors aren't helping.  BPD agents now have lots of people furious with them. And are still unsure as to how to do.  They know this in unconstitutional, so they are stuck.

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You've sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution and the judge's order isn't particularly lengthy or complex.  Those detained included a [b]five-year old American citizen[/b] and permanent legal residents.  CBP policies, procedures and regulations were not amended.  Not even a close call.  They need to be cited for contempt.  [/quote]

You're assuming they had all those facts at hand. From all accounts customs was a mess yesterday. These people went into work with basically no guidance on what to do or how to do it. I'm not saying heads shouldn't roll, just that the average agent/officer was likely just trying to do their best in an impossible situation.

Chain of command in situations like this is serious. CBP leadership needs to be called into a courtroom for sure. [/quote]

Handcuffing green card holders, searching their phones and asking whether they support Trump doesn't seem to be trying to do your best.  A kindergartener returning to his home country wasn't planning a sneak attack.  [/quote]

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