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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They are all horrible, except Luisa and the French lady.

So has Noah gone around the bend?  I've disliked him all along, but he definitely seems to be going through some sort of serious mental illness.  And from the previews, it looks like Helen is taking care of him.  But in his version of things, he basically thinks she is a shrew.  What gives?  He's just that out of it now?

Why did Helen have to screw Max?  That's just cruel.  I was kind of liking her till this.  Now I feel like she is irredeemable.  Why does Vic stay with her?  [/quote]

Why are they all horrible except the French lady? Because they all cheat? The French lady cheats on her husband.[/quote]

Quoted PP here.  Actually, I don't think the cheating is the thing that makes them horrible - it seems like a symptom of them being jerks generally.  So, this is why I think they're all horrible except Luisa and French woman:

Noah - completely self-centered, thinks he is the bees' knees and everyone should cater to him.  Ignores his kids.  Generally shockingly jerky.  I get he had a dying mom who he had to help die, and his family sucked, but that does not mean you get to be so awful to your kids.

Allison - also completely self-absorbed and obnoxious.  She cheated on her husband, who from all accounts was trying to be supportive and had also gone through the death of their child.  Admitted to using Noah as an escape mechanism, and cheated on him too.  Then had another kid and hid the paternity from a father who had lost his other kid!!!  That's the worst offense, IMO.  I understand that losing a child must be beyond horrible, and her childhood seems to be a mess too.  But good grief she is just a walking horror show.  I was hoping that she was getting better after being in the mental hospital or whatever it was, but she slept with Cole again, knowing that is wrong!

Helen - insanely selfish, treating people like props in her life.  I actually was feeling bad for her until her treatment of Vic and Max.  That just really peeved me.  She also really is quite sad how she continues to pine over Noah, who is not worth it and doesn't seem to care about her in any real way.  It's still unclear why he confessed/who he was protecting.

On second thought, I think Cole isn't terrible.  He cheated on Luisa, which is really bad, but I understand that he is really screwed up by Allison's affair, the death of the kid, and her hiding the new kid from him.  He seems messed up in that he wants to save her or something, and he knew her since they were kids.  So while some of his actions are bad, I don't think he's a horrible person.

French lady seems like she has a good heart.  I excuse the cheating on her husband because he is not really there anymore, and she must be going through a lot of pain.  Not ideal, but not the same thing at all as the other cheating going on.

I also like Luisa.  I am impressed that, even though she initially was super bitchy to Allison, she was able to think about it more and try to come together with Allison to let her have Joanie on her birthday.  Luisa's anger probably comes from watching Joanie be so sad, as well as sadness over not being able to have her own kids. But she seems like she is a quality person who is willing to do the right thing eventually.[/quote]

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