Reply to That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag

Forum Index » Off-Topic

Reply to "That Brock Allen Turner is a dirtbag"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hate to say this, but it doesn't seem like rape to me either. It seems like it was a party hook-up by two drunken idiots that went off the rails. He fingered her according to him, with her consent. There was no PIV.[/quote]

This is silly. In what universe do 2 people have consensual sex behind a dumpster, and then when people come up on you, the first instinct is to RUN LIKE HELL and leave a naked girl behind? Clearly he knew he was doing something wrong. He was scared to death of being caught because he knew he was raping a girl.

He was cool with leaving her behind, half naked with 2 dudes on a bike, in the middle of the night.

But it was just the alcohol right? Right.[/quote]

If they went behind that dumpster and had the impression that they couldn't be seen...I can see how the guy would have ran if he heard two guys yelling at him and coming at him.

Why did they go behind the dumpster?  Probably because that is where they could have privacy.  Couldn't go back to his dorm (dorm rules? roommate?)  and they sure as heck couldn't go back to her parents' house. Couldn't afford a hotel room.  No car. So behind the dumpster it was.

They were both drunk off their arses, she passed out and the swedes came along and [b]saw him humping a passed out girl.[/b]  The cops were call...and things snowballed into a trial.  That is my guess.[/quote]

At the point that your partner passes out, playtime is over. You have to stop. If you do not stop, it's rape.

Your defense of this guy makes you sound guilty as hell, BTW.  How many drunk, unconscious women did you have sex with in college?  [/quote]

I am a woman.  I also partied in college and can see this situation with the wisdom of hindsight.  I'm not "defending" this guy for touching this woman in a sexual way while she was passed out - he was dead wrong and disgusting for doing that.  He had no right to do that to her.  And he should be in trouble for doing that to her.

At the same time, I am not giving this woman a blank check to drink as much as she wants when/wherever she wants and not be accountable for the damage that she does to herself and others  in the process.  Nor do I give her a pass for hooking up with an inexperienced underage drunk guy and laying the complete and total responsibility for that train wreck of a night at his feet.  He bears responsibility for what HE actually did - sexual assault is extremely serious.  But so does she - blacking out on a public street by a dumpster is pretty darned bad.  And I mean out of control crazy bad.  Neither one of these people behaved responsibly that night.  They were BOTH out of control.  And something bad DID happen and they have both paid a heavy price for it.

As for why this all occurred behind a gross dumpster - privacy.  They wanted to fool around in privacy and they had nowhere else to go.  Turns out it wasn't as private as they thought and they were both a heck of a lot more drunk than they thought.  But the victim will move on from this night that she'll never remember.  This guy will be branded for life and that will impact everything he does from here on out - jobs, marriage, kids, where he lives, the activities he participates in....it's pretty heavy stuff.  I don't know that such a heavy penalty is warranted in this case because I think that there is some gray in this particular situation.

[/quote]

Privacy. That is hilarious. It is very easy to find privacy in the midst of a gorgeous campus at a party school. Literally, any of your friends rooms, the common areas, (which is a little gross, but certainly not behind a smelly dumpster) your frat house, your friends houses, your friends apartments.

It's a lot harder to commit crimes in front of people, though. I agree with you there. Especially when the woman is unconscious.

It is not so easy to rape an unconscious woman in public. Then, it does help to hide behind a dumpster.

[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics