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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity. [/quote]

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because....  courage, kindness, and likability?

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1450 is still 99th percentile. There's essentially no difference in their test-taking ability from someone with 1590. If all else was equal and the 1450 was significantly more courageous, kind and likeable, I'm not sure why you wouldn't choose them regardless of skin color.[/quote]

I think the difference is big between 1450 and 1590.  1450 might be 99th percentile, but it's not good enough especially for those elite schools.
Now 1590 is what? like 99.99 percentile?  Now we are talking.
We all know that courage, kindness, and likability score is bullshit.

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They keep admitting them. They keep graduating. How is that even possible?

It's because the real threshold is 1400. Anything over that is perfectly fine. They can pull names from hats at that point.[/quote]

that's the problem.
why pull names from hats when they can admit the 1590 kid who [b]deserves more[/b] than the 1400 kid.[/quote]

You are completely wrong and misunderstand this test and how it is used. It isn't "best score wins." It's "does the result show that this kid can handle college?" You aren't ranked by score. You get over the threshold, and it is enough for that small part of the application process.[/quote]

This 1000%!  The 1590 kid does not deserve anything anymore than a strong 1400 candidate.  FYI--there are plenty with 1590 that do make the cut, but not everyone for good reasons (and no it's not the color of their skin---it's everything else added up)[/quote]

That’s insane.  What’s your basis for claiming that a 1400 kid and a 1590 kid are basically equivalent?  Barring really strange personal factors, the 1590 kid is vastly more talented academically and it’s not even close.  And how much time do you think admissions officers spend to evaluate the “intangibles” of a particular candidate relative to others?  Not enough to allow a meaningful weighing.  Holistic admissions is basically just a cover for demographic adjustments to the student body because expressly doing so is illegal.  Everything else is just a rounding error.  [/quote]

That 1400 kid might also play the clarinet and tennis. Or have other talents the school is looking for that you, personally, don't value. We're never just going to have highest test score wins, without taking anything else into account. It's not the American way.[/quote]

The Harvard data shows Asians applicants with higher test scores also have higher scores on ECs and Leadership overall.

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Wrong.

You stating this over and over doesn't change the facts. The LORs and teacher recs were meh.

Good academic stats aren't enough for Harvard and elite oublics. Maybe for other state colleges. [/quote]
Data shows the LOR were slightly higher than white applicants.  It may be "meh", but along with everything else, those students have a stellar application.

It's also interesting that they didn't show a comparison with URM kids. I wonder how the data would look compared to them.[/quote]

Vast majority of applicants to Harvard have "stellar" applications. With a 3-4% acceptance rate, rejections are the norm.

The fact that SFFA compared Asians and whites demonstrates that this case has nothing to do with affirmative action, but the SFFA is being slick wrapping this into the case with a conservative SCOTUS majority.

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But the data shows that the Asian American applicants have *much* higher stats, activities, and leadership  than the next highest group (white), so yes, Asian American applicants have much more *stellar* applications.[/quote]

Where's the data? Have a link?

Crickets....[/quote]
? maybe read through the posts before posting.  The data was posted several times in this thread.[/quote]

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