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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Which is worse - thinking that having control means having control or not know that Senate rules require 60 votes on cloture? [/quote]

Trump has full control of the outcome.  Schumer will cave because his bluff has now been called and he had no strategy prepared for this.  He arrogantly assumed Trump and McConnell would cave and he should have known better.

Dems lose.[/quote]

To be frank, Republicans caved for so long, everyone forgot otherwise. I welcome the change and Schumer being kicked in the ass.

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Right.  But this is a totally self inflicted wound on Schumers part.   This was a fight that only happened because the dems have no leadership, no policy, and have marginalized themselves as a national party.  They've walked out onto a leftist ledge and don't know how to walk it back.  America is doing just fine with Trump and the left hates his guts because he's an old white male capitalist who speaks his mind and takes his pussy where he can find it.[/quote]

WRONG.

Trump had a deal on Friday. Why did he backtrack on it?

No Trump supporter has yet answered that question on this thread.  Why did Trump go back on his word?  He had a deal in hand, he then changed his mind.  WHY?[/quote]

I believe a previous post indicated that John Kelly played a role in killing it.[/quote]

And Miller, as well.[/quote]

The issue is Trump THE PERSON will meet with someone like Schumer and realize that saving DACA is incredibly easy and yeah we can do it for the wall. Then he is happy and thinks it's a win win- save DACA, get the promised wall. Bingo.

Then he gets around a GOPer who has to remind him that's not the GOP platform and AS PRESIDENT, he switches his position. He has no clear opinion or position on this because he doesn't actually know or care about this stuff. So he can be and is swayed by basically whoever last spoke to him. [/quote]

Wrong again.  If the republicans cave to the democrats it means they can be.blackmailed in the future with this kind of linkage.

MCConnell can wait forever as he showed with the supreme court.  Schumer can't.  The democrats will cave and whine about what a bully /Russian/mentally unfit person Trump is.

But they'll cave.

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Nope. The base told them not to cave this time. Keep dreaming. [/quote]

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