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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I read the Politico piece. Reade has no credibility. That along with the timing is too much for me to believe her. If she was concerned about him being a leader, when he ran for VP would have been the time to come out.[/quote] Huh. Does it bother you when other women wait decades to allege sexual assault? Or just Reade?[/quote] DP. You need to read the Politico piece, and the NPR piece. They’re about how she was fired from her Senate job for poor performance, nothing else. They're about how she ripped off people who were kind to her for decades. [/quote] And that has exactly what to do with a sexual assault? Are you the kind of person who discredits and dismisses hair stylists, strippers, waitresses, low-income women who might be down on their luck or come from less-than-ideal circumstances - if they dare to come forward after sexual assault? Not a good look. [/quote] Do you really not see the difference between (a) direct accounts from people who knew her who say she did not tell the truth in dealings with them, and (b) jackasses who respond to sexual assault allegations with "What was she wearing?" "Was she drunk?" "Why did she meet with him ?" or any of the other ways that rape apologists say that a woman was asking for it? [/quote] The point, which you keep dancing around, is that for decades we've been told that not only does it not matter what an accuser was [b]wearing, doing, drinking[/b] at the time of the alleged assault, but her (or his) personal life, trustworthiness, etc. should have NO bearing on whether or not s/he was actually assaulted. This is what victim advocates have preached for years and years and years. So here we have a classic example in which to practice what you preach. An imperfect woman with a fairly sketchy history - who claims she was sexually assaulted by Joe Biden. None of the rest should matter, right? Isn't that what you've always said? Yes, yes it is. :roll: [/quote] DP. You seem to have comprehension problems. Or you hate women, it’s hard to tell. The point you don’t want to understand is that a serial liar—a serial liar with an ever-changing story, no less—is very different from a woman who was attacked while amusing herself by drinking or dancing. Stop with the sleazy and dishonest misrepresentation of victims advocates. They don’t claim that serial liars should automatically be believed. They do advocate for women who were amusing themselves innocently, say at a bar. If you can’t see the difference, you’re a poor excuse for a human being.[/quote] Nope. Wrong. Serial liars can also be sexually assaulted. That you're denying that only makes *you* look sleazy, dishonest, and women-hating. Oh, and a poor excuse for a human being. Gotta cover all those clichés. [/quote] Sure, serial liars can be raped. But when their rape stories themselves appear to be riddled with lies, nobody is “obligated” to believe them. You need to stop pretending that’s how it works. [b]You’re trying to undermine legitimate rape victims and for political reasons. That’s why you’re a sleazy woman hater.[/b] [/quote] Wow. Pot meet kettle x a million. How soon we forget. [/quote]
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