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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Anonymous wrote: Have you ever been in a public school? Doesn't sound like it. Some of them were great places before all this testing. Right, which is why we graduated millions of kids who were at best semiliterate, unable to make change, unable to point out the Pacific Ocean on a world map, who think Abe Lincoln was one of the Founding Fathers, and that Ben Franklin was one of our first Presidents, et cetera.... Great place maybe, but education sure wasn't so great... Wonderful that you believe all of that. I will let my students know what you think of them next time they service your car, prepare your restaurant meal and serve it, cut your hair, repair your roads, fix your plumbing, service your HVAC, draw plans for your landscaping, etc. I will ask them if they can tell you about Ben Franklin and then I will say that they are not worthy to be there working for you because you expect them to be able to point to the Pacific Ocean before they can work for you. Millions of worthless people? You underestimate people by a long shot. Someone might not meet the standard for who Ben Franklin is, but that says absolutely nothing about what they CAN do. I didn't say anything about "worthless." How about we let them know that our educational system shortchanged them and that they have a bleaker future now, instead they could have been doing so much better in life than being limited to working in manual labor jobs that are rapidly going away due to outsourcing and automation. That's something that you need to come to grips with. You might know classrooms (though I am skeptical that you are actually a teacher) but I definitely think you are seriously out of touch with the challenges facing kids after they get out of school these days. I've mentored a lot of kids and helped get career and life coaching on track, I've interviewed and hired a lot of recent grads, I've served on advisory boards to colleges, I have seen a lot and I do know a thing or two about this. Not either PP, but I am glad responder has shared her expertise with us. I hope she will explain to me how we are to outsource auto mechanics, HVAC, landscaping, service people, etc. NP - Um, companies hire Mexicans for that work these days... [/quote] Which brings up a whole other side to the issue of us all having to go to college to get jobs that pay . . . and how that is affecting the pressure to put in these standards and tests . . . and begs the question of what will happen to those who just cannot meet these standards . . . what are we giving to those people when they are in school? What do they leave with? [/quote] That's already been the case for decades - one's income potential is much lower if you don't go to college.[/quote]
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