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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One of the Gold Star moms was just on Fox and said that Harris and Biden were invited but they didn’t respond. DP.[/quote] That seems unlikely enough that it makes me really wonder who sent the invitation, as well as when, where and how. If the invitations were sent via whatever the proper channels might be, it’s difficult to imagine that both offices wouldn’t have at least sent letters expressing regrets. Both offices must get hundreds of invitations each week. A response would have been routine. So, definitely something I’m curious about. Was a letter sent to the right offices, a few months in advance? Did someone send a tweet a few days ahead of the event? This all seems quite odd. [/quote] My theory is that some Trump aide heard the dad’s speech at the RNC and cooked up the ceremony. I doubt that the families had the wherewithal to secure honor guards to attend. The date of the “invitations” will support me on this. An acting president can’t always drop everything to attend a ceremony, and if he did, it would imply that he should attend constant anniversaries of honorable deaths. President Biden attended their honorable transfer three years ago at Dover. When the president gazed at rosary beads he had wrapped around his wrist, MAGA media exploded with the accusation that he was looking at his watch. [/quote] You are wrong. The date of the ceremony was the actual anniversary of the bombing. Arlington provides the Military personnel to support the ceremony. You are just so wrong. [img]<a href="https://ibb.co/r3tKGd7"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/bF3jgbW/IMG-3828.jpg" alt="IMG-3828" border="0"></a>[/img] I don’t see rosary beads. [/quote] How come only the one family was involved in "the ceremony" and not all 13 families? If it's supposedly some kind of "official ceremony for the anniversary of the attack" then why were the other 12 families excluded from it? And did Trump attend the 1st anniversary "official ceremony?" Or the 2nd anniversary "official ceremony?" The answer is no, because there was no such "official ceremony" and more to the point, because it wasn't an election year and Trump didn't give a shit because it only meant something to him if he could use it as a political stunt. And, it's very well known he wears rosary beads on that wrist with that watch but they may be above or below where the watch band is, and either way are typically hidden by his shirt cuff. [img]https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/04/12/USAT/af5f99c9-bbf8-499f-9077-aede9cffd980-GTY_1231463345.jpg?crop=611,344,x0,y31[/img] It's YOU who is "just so wrong."[/quote] You have repeated that only one Abbey Gate Family participated in the Wreath Laying ceremony and the other 12 were “excluded.” Source? Citation? Where are you getting that information from?[/quote] Face it. Trump has angered many people with his sacrilege. The rabbit hole of the “ceremony” details are irrelevant. [/quote] You are just making crap up. If the details are irrelevant, then why are you lying about the Wreath Laying Ceremony?[/quote] Why was only one family involved in this supposed "Wreath Laying Ceremony?" Why wasn't Trump there for the 1st or 2nd Anniversary? Why weren't Arlington rules being followed if it was supposedly an official Arlington ceremony? The answer is that this was NOT an official Wreath Laying Ceremony. It was a political stunt, orchestrated by a family member who spoke at the RNC convention, meant to try and cast shame on the Biden admin just 2 months before the election. Though, as we all know, Trump was responsible for setting up and sabotaging the Afghanistan withdrawal before Biden even got into office. [/quote] [b]A wreath was laid by the family of Sgt Nicole Gee; a wreath was laid for the Abbey Gate 13. Both wreath laying ceremonies were official US Army Wreath laying ceremonies.[/b] Sgt Nicole Gee’s family had to secure private help (outside of the DOD) to transport her body to Arlington for her burial in ANC. In a message Wednesday to The Sacramento Bee, Christy Shamblin, Gee’s mother-in-law, said the family was fortunate to have the help of Honoring Our Fallen, a nonprofit organization, which found a private pilot who donated the transport, sparing them the hefty price tag. “Not every family was so fortunate,” she said. Honoring Our Fallen supports “the dignified transfer, arrival, and burial of fallen active duty military and first responders,” Laura Herzog, the nonprofit’s founder and CEO, said in a statement sent to The Bee Thursday. “To avoid having Sgt. Gee’s remains be transported via a commercial airline, I personally secured an in-kind donation of a flight in a private aircraft,” Herzog said. “No monies were exchanged or expected to be paid by our organization or the family. This was a donation made by a veteran who donated this service to us to assist us in honoring Sgt. Gee,” she added. The Pentagon official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that “Marine Corps casualty assistance officers were in direct communication with Sgt. Gee’s family, and they remain in contact today.” The official told McClatchyDC, The Bee’s Washington bureau, that “the Marine Corps stayed consistent with its policy that all costs associated with internment be borne by the government.” “The Marine Corps takes very seriously the transfer of remains of our Marines,” the official said, “they never leave a Marine behind, and they care for the families of their fallen Marines.” After her death, the Department of Defense originally paid for Gee’s remains to be transported to her family in Roseville, where a local funeral was held for her. However, the department later “declined to cover the cost of transportation to her final resting place in Arlington National Cemetery.” “Gold Star families have given too much to be treated so poorly,” the Rocklin Republican wrote. https://amp.sacbee.com/news/local/article277683098.html [/quote] If "official" (no idea how you define that or verify that) then why only one of the dead get a personal wreath? And if "official" why were they so careless about photographing the headstone of another soldier with no connection to the bombing, which is EXPLICITLY against the rules? [/quote] There were two wreaths laid; one for Sgt. Gee and another for the Abbey Gate 13. The grave markers are close and half of another marker was in a photograph. If you think that is a tragedy you should read about what happened to the Abbey Gate 13 and remember their faces and names. They didn’t have to die as Biden had multiple warnings about a an imminent terrorist attack at Hamid Kharzi airport. [/quote] It's unfortunate that Trump released so many Taliban in advance, then. At least he was there to give a "thumb-up, I did it" sign.[/quote] #1- ISIS set off the suicide bomb that killed and injured our Military members and the people trying to flee Afghanistan. ISIS members were imprisoned in AFG, and as the country fell, they escaped from the prisons. #2- The Taliban were in control of AFG even before all Americans and other foreigners left AFG. They were outside the airport waiting for us to leave. They “assisted” in crowd control by emptying a clip from their AK-47s into the crowd when ever the situation got too chaotic. Our troops had to stay inside the wire and watch the Taliban kill innocent people whenever they felt like it. After the fall of Kabul to the Taliban on 15 August 2021, Hamid Karzai International Airport was the only way out of Afghanistan.[20] Security concerns grew after hundreds of members of the Islamic State – Khorasan Province escaped from jails at Bagram and Pul-e-Charkhi.[21][22] On 16 August, the Pentagon warned the US Congress about the increased threat of a terrorist attack by ISIS following the fall of Kabul the previous day.[23][24] US President Joe Biden received multiple reports of a possible attack during the week preceding the attack,[25] and warned on 22 August in remarks from the White House that the longer US troops remained in the country, the greater the threat that ISIS would pose to American personnel and civilians near the airport.[26] Hours before the attack, US diplomats in Kabul warned American citizens to leave the airport because of security threats.[27] United Kingdom Armed Forces Minister James Heappey had also warned of a highly credible threat of attack at the airport by ISIS militants.[28][29] The embassies of the United States, the United Kingdom and Australia also warned about high-security threats involving the airport.[30] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Kabul_airport_attack ISIS–K, who claimed responsibility for the attack, named the bomber as Abdul Rahman al-Logari.[6][8] [i]The Taliban had fought against IS–KP previously,[40] and were helping the US forces to maintain security at the airport.[41][/i] (By emptying their AKs into the crowd intermittently, neato.) US President Biden made a public address following the attack. He honored the US service members who were killed, calling them "heroes" and saying they lost their lives "in the service of liberty", and also expressed deep sorrow for the Afghan victims. Biden said to those who wished harm upon the US that "we will hunt you down and make you pay".[52] The United Kingdom government also said that they will continue Operation Pitting, the evacuation from Afghanistan.[53] Washington(CNN) Approximately $7 billion of military equipment the US transferred to the Afghan government over the course of 16 years was left behind in Afghanistan after the US completed its withdrawal from the country in August, according to a congressionally mandated report from the US Department of Defense viewed by CNN. This equipment is now in a country that is controlled by the very enemy the US was trying to drive out over the past two decades: the Taliban. The Defense Department has no plans to return to Afghanistan to "retrieve or destroy" the equipment, reads the report, which has been provided to Congress. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/04/27/politics/afghan-weapons-left-behind U.S. arms left in Afghanistan are turning up in a different conflict Since falling into the hands of the Taliban, some of the weapons have been seized from militants in Indian-controlled Kashmir in what experts say could be just the start of their global journey. SRINAGAR, India — Weapons left behind by U.S. forces during the withdrawal from Afghanistan are surfacing in another conflict, further arming militants in the disputed South Asian region of Kashmir in what experts say could be just the start of the weapons’ global journey. Authorities in Indian-controlled Kashmir tell NBC News that militants trying to annex the region for Pakistan are carrying M4s, M16s and other U.S.-made arms and ammunition that have rarely been seen in the 30-year conflict. A major reason, they say, is a regional flood of U.S.-funded weapons that fell into the hands of the Taliban when U.S.-led NATO forces withdrew from Afghanistan in 2021. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna67134 [/quote]
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