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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tulsi Gabbard on Trump's Indictment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmQarG44QE[/quote]

If she thinks it's fine for any public servant to walk out with hundreds upon hundreds of our country's most sensitive national security documents which are NOT Presidential records, which are documents that do not belong to him, but which belong to the government, and to conceal them, lie about them, to obstruct any investigation into them, to enlist others to lie about them - she is unfit to serve in government and is unfit to hold a military commission.[/quote]

Presidential records? That has nothing to do with it.
 :mrgreen:  :lol: 
U.S. Constitution - Article 2, Section 2.
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Article 2 Section 2 has nothing to do with it either.  NOWHERE in the Constitution does it confer any right for the President to take government assets

By your bizarre reading, Trump could have flown Air Force One to Florida and declared it to be his own personal property.  He is not entitled to it, just as he is not entitled to take official agency documents, particularly some of the most sensitive ones in US government.   The only things he was entitled to take were his own personal notes, his own personal correspondence and other personal items.  [/quote]

Wrong. As head of the executive branch, he had the authority to do exactly what he did.[/quote]

Actually he was a fired employee. You aren’t allowed to take company property when you leave. Period. [/quote]

I’ll just leave this right here as an example of the stupidity of leftists

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Actually, you were just hoisted by your own petard.

Is an employee who is no longer employed allowed to keep corporate property?

No.

Former President Trump left office. He was not entitled to keep the property of the US public.

He was entitled to keep his own property.

The items in question were not his property.

This isn't hard.

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Substitute Biden for Trump. Biden was never President. Was Biden entitled to keep that property? [/quote]

No but he freely gave it back when it was discovered.  The law says “willfully retains”.  Where Trump screwed up was fighting the return of material, which is proof of his intent.[/quote]

He kept it for years. That’s willfully retaining it. In addition, he out and out stole it as he had no legal right as a Senator to have those documents. [/quote]

Not if he didn't know it was in his possession.  As soon as the items were identified, he returned them.

"willful" means intent.  It's really hard to prove intent.  It's like prosecuting a hate crime, where you basically have to have someone shouting racial slurs on camera while they are beating someone up.

Trump did that.  He admitted that he had classified documents that he could not declassify, on tape while he showed them to people without a clearance. He hid boxes of documents from his own attorneys when they were conducting a search, and it was all caught on camera.  He suggested to his own lawyer that they could make documents disappear.

He did this to himself.[/quote]

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