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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is this board still pretending he isn’t a communist as video surfaces of him describing his end goal of seizing the means of production? Open your eyes.

https://thepostmillennial.com/communist-zohran-mamdani-admitted-in-2021-the-end-goal-was-seizing-the-means-of-production[/quote]

The first thing you should do is to learn the difference between socialism and communism.  Then you should learn about socialist systems that exist.  Once there, maybe spend five minutes learning about successful social democracies.  Ok, once you have that background down you can think about what you actually could implement in the US (probably not much of it) and how almost any of it would improve the lives of average Americans.  I know that republicans have you convinced that you should lick the boot of billionaires, and you can, but the rest of us aren’t.[/quote]

Oh please. Stop pretending. This guy is using the veil of “social democracy” to promote blatantly communist concepts such as seizing the means of production. It’s plain as day. [/quote]

But when the "means of production" are not producing for the people, what is wrong with government intervention? [/quote]

Mamdani is rich. Obviously our system has worked just fine for him.
Go back and read your history book about the millions killed in communism.[/quote]

Again, you are confusing socialism with communism.

I’m glad that this is all happening.  Using socialism as some boogeyman has to end. Social Security, public education, libraries, infrastructure, all SOCIAL SYSTEMS.  You know, socialism.

Don’t worry, though, the republicans are convincing a bunch of fools that they don’t even deserve that return on their own money.  You’ll pay taxes and you’ll get nothing from them and you’ll like it.[/quote]

+100. Social security is the most popular social program.   [/quote]

Good grief.  The US is based on capitalism.  Not socialism.  
Socialism, as Mamdani would like, is NOT a good thing.  The piece that was linked upthread about socialistm has this little bit that you all are ignoring:

"Capitalism, with its belief in private ownership and the maximizing of profits, stands in contrast to socialism, [b]but most capitalist economies today have some socialist aspects.[/b]"

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/socialism.asp

Just because the US has some aspect of socialism, that doesn't mean that socialism is good or that the US is a socialist country.  
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That's your opinion, and the great thing about democracy is that this country can be whatever the people want it to be. [/quote]

It’s not my opinion.  It’s fact. The US is not a socialist country. And will hopefully never become one. [/quote]

The opinion part was your characterization of socialism, genius. I know we're currently a capitalist country. But like I said, we can be whatever we choose to be.

Society has undergone many transformations, of which the adoption of capitalism is only one. Perhaps it served its purpose and it's time to move on. Scarcity isn't a real thing anymore. It's something we are artificially imposing on ourselves to prop up an outdated economic system. That same system is literally destroying our planet. You cannot have infinite growth on a finite planet with finite resources forever, and capitalism demands infinite growth. It's high time we move on to a more sustainable and equitable system that [b]distributes[/b] resources in a way that serves society as a whole, not just the fortunate few. [/quote]

I think you mean "redistributes."  That is what socialism is.  A redistribution of wealth.  
As Margaret Thatcher said...... “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”[/quote]

Money isn't real. Resources are real. We could just...share. [/quote]

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