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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote][b]Dartmouth has been wildly overrated[/b] for a while, so this new ranking isn’t surprising to me.

Top 15 all look about accurate to me.

True. Dartmouth is truly the lowest ivy. People think it's Cornell because Cornell stats gets dragged down because of its agriculture and hotel schools. But Dartmouth is hands down the easiest ivy to get into.

Dartmouth is #18 - so lowest ranked Ivy by far

Once again I ask what evidence to you have to make that determination?  I don't think you have any.[/quote]

So the evidence of the fact that it is over-rated is the fact that it is currently the lowest rated Ivy?

Circular reasoning at best, but IMHO very faulty reasoning regardless.[/quote]

Where would it be ranked if it didn't play sportsball against HYP? [/quote]

More speculation without foundation or evidence.  Try again.  [/quote]

As a rhetorical question it’s obviously speculative as many if not most arguments on rankings are.

However, as an actual question, I find it quite interesting. All else equal, where would an Ivy school rank if the actual Ivy sports league didn’t exist? College education is obviously so much about signaling / reputation and there are strong feedback loops - if high stat students go to a school other high stat students will apply and as that is part of the ranking it strengthens the quality of the signal / reputation.

Would love to see Raj Chetty of Harvard address this question and provide a non-speculative answer. I would not bet too much on the league brand being insignificant, but I wouldn’t expect it too be that important either. But now I’m just speculating…[/quote]

Hitchen's razor states that which can be presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.[/quote]

Indeed. That's why solid empirical work would be interesting.

However, the more consequential principle is that "Which is presented with evidence will be dismissed and ignored when it doesn't serve a self interest", Anonymous (circa 2023).  [/quote]

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