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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]"In the case of university admissions over the past decade, Asians serve as this sort of mask for white privilege," Chang says. "A mask that white privilege can wear in order to hide itself." A mask, he says, with the veneer of very real experiences of racism by Asian Americans.

"Is anti-Asian racism real? Yeah, absolutely," says OiYan Poon, a professor at Colorado State University who studies race-based admissions. "I have experienced it firsthand."

But according to her research, affirmative action is not the source of that racism.

"I've been pouring over the data for years," she says — including the admissions data of Harvard before the court in one of the case that just ended affirmative action. "There is no evidence that there's a practice of anti-Asian discrimination." [/quote]

Source: https://www.npr.org/2023/07/02/1183981097/affirmative-action-asian-americans-poc

Asians are useful idiots for white conservatives. [/quote]

I wonder how this will play out when the percentage of asians getting into elite schools next year is about the same as it was this year, but the percentage of white kids went up.  Will they see they got conned?[/quote]

Asians are already 4x overrepresented in elite schools.  Not sure what their complaint is, other than perhaps they think all Asians, and only Asians should be attending elite schools...[/quote]

OMG are you all this dense?  Or just pretending to be to allow this racism to go on?  The complaint is that Asians were denied admissions because of their race.  The ask is not that only Asians attend elite schools, but that EVERY student be judged on their own merits and not by their race.  I do not see how the percent of asians at elite schools vs general population is relevant at all, unless your basic assumption is racism (only looking at what is fair through the lens of race). [/quote]

The problem is that SCOTUS only outlawed one particular type of racial preference- the one in favor of disadvantaged races.  The ones that advantage white kids (legacy and athletics for niche sports) are still allowed.  So EVERY student will not be judged on their own merits.[/quote]

Those are not explicitly racial discrimination.  Also, the Supreme Court did not outlaw affirmative action.  Clarence Thomas said they effectively did in his concurrence, but technically they stuck to their original ruling from 2003 rather than overturn it.  The discrimination has to be justified on certain grounds, and these colleges failed to do so.[/quote]

It doesn't matter that it is explicitly racial discrimination.  They are factors that have nothing to do with academics and that is heavily correlated with one racial group.  Harvard could very easily select other non-academic factors that are correlated with being black.  Just changing up the mix of athletic recruit slots toward sports that blacks play more would likely result in more blacks.  Would that be "fair" to asians?  [/quote]

I'm flabbergasted I have to actually have to make this post.

"Civil Rights Act of 1964 is a federal law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of [b] race[/b], color, national origin, sex (including pregnancy), and religion in employment,[b]education[/b], and access to public facilities and public accommodations, such as restaurants and hotels"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/civil_rights_act_of_1964

So I have bolded racial discrimination, which ABSOLUTELY matters, but nowhere in there is legacy or athletic status.. [/quote]

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