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Of all the schools, Barcroft is the only one that even has the demographics to be 50/50. Carlin Springs and Randolph just don’t have the kids from MC or UMC families to balance the amount of AH with kids. The numbers go down, but not much, especially Carlin Springs. The numbers just aren’t there for those two schools to be “balanced.”

Some of this also has to do with option school policy. If more kids gained access through VPI, the fr/l numbers might not be as high in the SA segregated neighborhood schools. Take more disadvantaged kids (give them the opportunity first), and take fewer SA MC kids. Maybe the option schools should be more like Campbell, with 50% of the seats reserved for kids who come in through VPI. 
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Interestingly enough- Carlin Springs was the one that LS called out in the webinar yesterday as the one where the FRL rate would substantially change if there were not option schools transfers.  Last year CS had 349 kids transfer out.  It had 638 students enrolled.  If you add those 349 kids back into the school, and assume none of them are farms- you get a FARMS rate of 48%.  Probably some of them are FARMS, but most are not.[/quote]

I don’t think that’s correct. How do you think Campbell has a 50% fr/l rate? It’s half kids who are zoned CS but who go to Campbell through VPI instead. That accounts for a lot of that transfer number, as would any kids headed to Claremont, who may or may not qualify for fr/l. If you look at the map, the only solidly MC PUs zoned to CS are Glencarlyn and Forest Glen. There aren’t that many K-5 kids living in those neighborhoods. It’s maybe 100 kids? That doesn’t account for kids in private school, but they won’t be coming to Carlin Springs anyway. If all 100 MC kids in K-5 at other public schools in APS went to Carlin Springs, the fr/l rate would drop, to a mere 70% fr/l. So, yes, better, but still highly segregated. [/quote]

If you assume that all of the kids who transferred from Carlin Springs to Campbell are FARMS, you would get a 70% FARMS rate at Carlin Springs.  I personally know multiple Middle Class families who live in Glen Carlyn, zoned for Carlin Springs- who attend Campbell.  All the CS transfers to Campbell are not FARMS.  So if all inbound kids attended Carlin Springs, you would have a FARMS rate somewhere between 48-70%.  That's pretty substantially different than the current 80%.[/quote]

I am pretty sure there are only about 100 kids aged K-5 living in all of Glencarlyn (PUs 35010, 35020, 35040) and Forest Glen (35041, 35050) enrolled in APS schools. That’s all kids, K-5 enrolled in APS living in those PUs. The data tables are on the APS site here:

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Planning-Unit-Level-Enrollment-Projections-and-Select-Student-Demographics-Oct.-17-2018.pdf

There are no other SFH neighborhoods assigned to CS. The multifamily PUs have majority fr/l students.

So, that means over 200 of the CS transfers out are fr/l students. Many to Campbell, some to Claremont, and a few to ATS. [/quote]

Yes, that’s right. There seems to be this complete ignorance about how much poverty is in South Arlington. I can understand why some in NA don’t know or can’t imagine it, but across all SA as a whole, 50 percent of students are FRL. 50 percent. HALF. Think about that the next time you feel the urge to claim that if only middle class students from SA would all attend the neighborhood school, things would be better. No they wouldn’t. They’d be at best, 50 percent FRL, which most NA parents would t touch with a ten foot pole.[/quote]

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