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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unbelievable how Americans like to blame individuals and think that everything is an individual fault but never hold corporations and government for creating a system that supports profits over human health and well-being responsible. Obesity will continue to grow in this country til food supply is fixed which will never happen in my lifetime for certain. [/quote]

Look around you in the grocery store.  Majority of carts filled to the brim with complete garbage.  While fresh produce, milk, meats, whole grains are all around.  People DONT WANT to eat heathy [/quote]

And let’s assume that’s true.  We should still address the food supply.  Even if you don’t care about the health of your fellow human beings, the social and economic costs affect us all. And if all these smug people on here are eating as healthy as they say, they won’t miss the garbage at the store.[/quote]

No one has to buy it.  But good luck getting all food with carbs and sugar banned. [/quote]

It’s not about banning everything and carbs aren’t even the enemy (that’s a marketing scheme you have fallen prey to, friend).  It’s about getting some common-sense regulations to move the needle.  [/quote]

This is not going to work because no one can agree even on what to ban, or what is healthy vs. unhealthy.

Sugar?  Obviously bad, but wait, what about corn syrup?  Also bad.  What about artificial sweeteners?  Also bad.  Stevia, or other natural sweeteners?  Still sweet and produce an insulin response?

Okay how about fat.  Trans fat was already taken out.  What about saturated fat?  Jury's still out on whether that's healthy or unhealthy.  Vegetable oil?  Same, mixed reviews, but it's definitely cheaper than olive oil and other specialty oils, so the financial impact to consumers also has to be considered.

What about non-GMO?  Personally I see nothing wrong with GMOs, but even if you do, you would be hard-pressed to regulate against all GMO content in food.  It's just too much.

What about hormones?  What about soy's natural effect on estrogen?  What about food coloring that causes behavior issues in kids?

There are simply too many things and they will be debating for years before agreeing to come up with even one simple regulation.  It simply will not ever happen that all bad foods are wiped off the supermarket shelves.

That brings it back to individual CHOICE.  There is no escaping this fact.  People have to care and take responsibility for what they consume.  It's really the only thing we can control (I would say exercise is possibly another but there are far more excuses about why that's not possible).[/quote]

I’m not saying it’s going to happen.  I’m saying it’s what NEEDS to happen, and even if it’s unlikely, I’m surprised by people insisting that it’s a bad idea.  “Individual choice” just isn’t working and I don’t think it’s going to be a solution if it hasn’t been to date.  People do all kinds of things they shouldn’t do- I doubt most people follow screen time recommendations or get 150 minutes of exercise per week, for example.  This is life.

Most of weight loss is down to diet.  What’s different about our diet and is it linked to the food supply?  To me, this is the question.  I’m a slim person but I won’t people to be healthy and I want my kids and future generations to have a lower chance of developing obesity.  My heart breaks when I see entire families - including the kids- who are obese.  We can’t continue to tolerate obesity any more than we can continue to tolerate gun violence.  But because of lobbying/money in politics, we will probably have to.  And it’s profoundly wrong.[/quote]

You think the government should force you to exercise a minimum amount and restrict your screen time?  I just don't see that ever happening in America, and I don't think it's even desirable to have that level of control.

Agree people don't make good choices, but honestly can't think of any way to legally force those things on people.  All we can do is provide incentives, and money seems to be the most effective.  Maybe give a tax credit to under 25 BMI?  Free gym memberships for all?  Food subsidies - yes, due to lobbies will be very hard to overcome Big Ag.  But maybe other subsidies to encourage fresh and organic food, like some places that give double/triple SNAP credits when you buy at a farmers market.[/quote]

No I don’t think the govt should restrict screen time.  I was making an analogy that most of us can relate to-  we all do things we know we shouldn’t.

I don’t believe people will suddenly start making good choices around food given the obesity trends.  I think we need a higher-level solution related to the food supply.  The subsidies that you mention are within the kinds of actions I’m suggesting.  [/quote]

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