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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unbelievable how Americans like to blame individuals and think that everything is an individual fault but never hold corporations and government for creating a system that supports profits over human health and well-being responsible. Obesity will continue to grow in this country til food supply is fixed which will never happen in my lifetime for certain. [/quote]

Look around you in the grocery store.  Majority of carts filled to the brim with complete garbage.  While fresh produce, milk, meats, whole grains are all around.  People DONT WANT to eat heathy [/quote]

And let’s assume that’s true.  We should still address the food supply.  Even if you don’t care about the health of your fellow human beings, the social and economic costs affect us all. And if all these smug people on here are eating as healthy as they say, they won’t miss the garbage at the store.[/quote]

No one has to buy it.  But good luck getting all food with carbs and sugar banned. [/quote]

It’s not about banning everything and carbs aren’t even the enemy (that’s a marketing scheme you have fallen prey to, friend).  It’s about getting some common-sense regulations to move the needle.  [/quote]

This is not going to work because no one can agree even on what to ban, or what is healthy vs. unhealthy.

Sugar?  Obviously bad, but wait, what about corn syrup?  Also bad.  What about artificial sweeteners?  Also bad.  Stevia, or other natural sweeteners?  Still sweet and produce an insulin response?

Okay how about fat.  Trans fat was already taken out.  What about saturated fat?  Jury's still out on whether that's healthy or unhealthy.  Vegetable oil?  Same, mixed reviews, but it's definitely cheaper than olive oil and other specialty oils, so the financial impact to consumers also has to be considered.

What about non-GMO?  Personally I see nothing wrong with GMOs, but even if you do, you would be hard-pressed to regulate against all GMO content in food.  It's just too much.

What about hormones?  What about soy's natural effect on estrogen?  What about food coloring that causes behavior issues in kids?

There are simply too many things and they will be debating for years before agreeing to come up with even one simple regulation.  It simply will not ever happen that all bad foods are wiped off the supermarket shelves.

That brings it back to individual CHOICE.  There is no escaping this fact.  People have to care and take responsibility for what they consume.  It's really the only thing we can control (I would say exercise is possibly another but there are far more excuses about why that's not possible).[/quote]

Even if we could wave a magic wand and instantly remove all the "bad food," there are plenty of people on here swearing that they can become obese on eating only healthy food.

[b]I don't believe this[/b], but say they are right.  So then, there actually is no hope except, again, personal responsibility.  Or drugs, I suppose.[/quote]

Then you literally don't believe in math. Literally are not able to understand that a calorie is a calorie from any food; that maintaining an obese weight is only slightly different than maintaining a healthy weight. I just cannot wrap my mind around this level of ignorance. [/quote]

Fine, so then admit that regulating food won't help you if you can become obese eating salad and apples.  [/quote]
but the thing is, two cups of salad is something like 15 calories (minus dressing)...so you'd have to eat literally 100 cups of salad just to get the caloric equivalent of say, three pieces of pizza. I don't think it is physically possible for your body to do that in a day, is it? (Not a facetious question.) If I ate 4 apples (400 calories) I think I'd be stuffed. If I ate a third of a bag of potato chips (also around 400 calories)...I would probably not be very satiated. So technically, yea, a calorie is a calorie from any food but it's physically very difficult (if not impossible for some foods) to eat the physical mass of said food you'd need to become obese. [/quote]

Agree, but yet posters here are claiming they do just that.  Eat only healthy foods and become obese.
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No one is claiming to only eat lettuce. Healthy whole foods includes non lettuce items. [/quote]

Yes, and if you eat them, in a moderate amount, you most likely will not get fat.[/quote]

No one is saying that’s not true (as long as by “moderate” you actually mean “precisely the amount that will not cause weight gain.”) But many people are saying if you only eat healthful foods you can’t become obese. Which is absolute nonsense given, well, math. [/quote]

Some people are saying we need to completely overhaul the food industry so that only healthy foods are available, because otherwise people can't control themselves and will eat the junk.

Others are saying that even if only healthy food were left, people would still become obese.

So looks like we are all destined to become obese?[/quote]

Yes. That is in fact the reality of today, assuming nothing changes. Look around you. [/quote]

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