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What you're saying isn't logical at all. You guys hate the slogan "make America great again" meaning you don't like how America has ever been before. By definition that isn't a centrist view. Most Americans do like America and find many aspects of America to be really great. So the idea of MAGA is inherently much more centrist since it has a favorable view of the US.

Don't be daft. MAGA means "going back" to some ideal that white people falsely believe existed in the 50s or something. For most marginalized groups and those of us who are not white supremacists or religious zealots who want to foist Christianity on the entire populace via the government, going back to their fantasy "ideal" is not at all appealing.

When you say "Most Americans do like America and find many aspects of America to be really great," I agree. American has many great things about it. Those of us who see MAGA for what it is find people who are looking backward instead of looking forward, trying to make America even greater, are telling me something unfavorable about themselves.[/quote]

This.  If Biden wins, it is because there are an awful lot of people who believe that "Make America Great Again" is code for "Let's Go Back to 1960".    The Dobbs decision did that to women.  Chevron did that to environmental protection laws.  Next they are coming for gay rights.    And a lot of us do not want to go back to 1960.

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A lot of us want to be able to not get car jacked or murdered in downtown DC. So there’s that.  [/quote]

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