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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]he Arab Word is Watching a Different War: Three reasons why it has been difficult to understand the Arab position: 1 - The first is the Arab relationship with Iran. From the vantage point of Brussels or London, Iran presents itself as a resistance movement with a grievance against American hegemony and Israeli occupation, and this presentation maps comfortably onto familiar Western anticolonial frameworks. What it does not map onto is the lived experience of Arab populations in Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, and across the Gulf. In those countries, Iran's presence meant Hezbollah holding the Lebanese state hostage to Tehran's decisions, thirty-five armed factions in Iraq drawing salaries from Iranian funds channeled through the Iraqi national treasury, and Houthi commanders answering to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps while firing on Arab civilians from Yemeni soil. Freedom is not the word any serious Arab observer would use for what Iran brought. Indeed, the Arab world's quarrel with Iran runs far deeper than American bases or Israeli airstrikes. What drives it is the systematic subversion of Arab sovereignty by a foreign power that uses the language of Islamic solidarity as cover for an imperial project conducted through proxies. 2 - The second dimension is the proxy question itself, where Western analysis fails most comprehensively. Iran goes far beyond supporting armed groups. Parallel state structures get built inside Arab countries, financial systems get captured, and political figures get installed who owe their existence and survival entirely to Tehran. The Iranians who have administered this project understand it as the export of a revolution, but what Arab populations have experienced is closer to a colonial occupation conducted through intermediaries, and as of now, they’re not mourning the Islamic Republic. But Westerners treat these proxy networks as instruments of legitimate resistance rather than as mechanisms of subjugation, they endorse an imperial project while believing themselves to be opposing one, and as a matter of fact, make themselves the legitimizing force behind Iran’s war against the Arab world. 3- The third dimension is the most counterintuitive for a Western audience, and it is the one most consequential for how the current war is understood and misunderstood. [b]For Arab nationalists, including secular nationalists and even those with deep reservations about Israeli policy, Iran represents a greater and more immediate threat than Israel does.[/b] This is a position that Western media are structurally ill-equipped to render intelligible, because Western discourse on the Middle East has been organized for decades around the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as the primary axis of regional injustice. The result is that when Western governments and Western publics take strong positions against Israel’s actions against Iran’s operations, they believe themselves to be standing with the Arab world. In reality, they are advancing a position that the Arab world does not share and has not asked for, while ignoring the threat that Arab governments and Arab populations actually live with. The rhetorical use of Israel as a perpetual alibi for Iranian aggression has been one of the Islamic Republic’s most durable tools, and Western opinion has served as the unwitting amplifier of that tool across the entire duration of the Islamic Republic’s existence. [twitter]https://x.com/zriboua/status/2043397089539846205?s=20[/twitter][/quote] Excellent analysis. (which in no way justifies Israeli conduct but explains how the US left has been thoroughly duped and even willingly led into it through the exploitation of antisemitic tropes.)[/quote] This is not analysis. It is propaganda. Anyone who has a basic understanding of the ME would strongly disagree with this sh#t. The problem is Israel. [/quote] :lol: The author is an expert on the Middle East, you twit. It's *you* who is constantly spewing your propaganda.[/quote] It’s a wish casting for Israel. Seriously no one but the most fanatical pro Zionist would think it is even coherent argument. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the ME. [/quote] Right, because only you - no one else - could possibly know what they're talking about re: the Middle East. Just you and your obsession with "Zionists." You don't even see that the true fanatic is YOU. Your ego must be visible from space.[/quote] It is obvious you and the author have no clue what you’re talking about. Every group, country, etc in the Middle East hates Israel because of their actions. It is only US pressure on the countries in the region that this is kept in check and this is done at great expense. It is beyond credibility to say the people you kill and cripple every day are on your side. How stupid. What will happen in the ME is the following. The US will leave. There is no way to maintain bases that are under constant attack. Jordan’s government will fall and be replaced by a Palestinian government that will annex the West Bank and Gaza. Oh and the new Palestinian state in Jordan will be recognized by every country in the world. Iraq with Iran’s support will take over Kuwait. The other kingdoms in the gulf will either fall(the population has always been pro Palestinian) or take an anti Israel pro china policy. Iran has decided to make an example out of UAE. So cross the UAE off your list. Now you have to watch what happens in Egypt. Gas and diesel price spike and fertilizer has gone up is 500%. Looks like food riots will be coming. [/quote]
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