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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most astute observers believe that the SC decision will not ultimately change college admissions much. If the schools overtly disengage from racial proxies, studies show that blacks and Hispanics will lose out to whites and Asians. But, schools are likely to develop more ambiguous criteria that allow them to maintain the status quo or whatever profile they choose. [/quote] This^^^. The entire process can be ambiguous and universities will still accomplish what they desire. Fact is they do not have to supply admission criteria/data points for review. They will just ensure anything written down is "non discriminatory" Easy to do when most use 25-30 data points for deciding and only a few are cut and dry, and even then they are allowed to value a 1500 over a 1580 if the 1500 kid comes from an underprivileged environment. [/quote] It's hard to do things ambiguously when you receive 50K - 100K applications, and a group of underpaid AOs are not some executive decision makers. You can't really possibly look at each individuals as a person. You need some sort of systematic number system. That's why even Harvard had the scores. There also might be whistle blowers if you keep racially discriminating. You can't really act like some sort of secret CIA operation. I want more clear rules and transparency from colleges. Anyone really want the opposite? [/quote] Not really. I'm smart enough to recognize that when over 96% of applicants will be rejected, that means it is a Lottery for everyone, so apply/buy your ticket but also plan to be rejected and select several Targets in the 25-60 range that you love so you have a great place to ultimately attend. Nobody will ever be able to tell you "if you do/get A, b, c, D thru Z" we will guarantee you a spot. Or at least not at a T25 school. Try ones in the 80+ range and you can get that guarantee Just accept the fact that over 95% are rejected at the T25 schools, so nobody is guaranteed a spot and nobody should go into it thinking, "I've done everything right now give me my admission ticket". That's not how it works, and it will never be like that. Harvard (and the likes) will just remove any references that can be construed as AA, they will find a nuanced way to get the balance they want for their freshman class. People really need to get over feeling they are entitled to a spot and that if they don't get it it is AA/racial. When 95% are rejected, there will be many who feel they are entitled to a spot and don't get it, does not matter their skin color. Yes, an AO can say "you are unlikeable, or not top Harvard material" based on the essays or LOR----it is really not much separating many from gaining admissions, yet fact is there are only going to be ~2K offers of admission and 50K+ will be disappointed. I for one would not want to employee someone who feels the need to sue because they got rejected from a school that rejects 95%+. It's an attitude problem at that point---lack of resilience. and lack of awareness that makes them think "ivy or bust" when in reality they will excel at any school[/quote] All sound ok except that there was clear indication of racial discrimination. People rightfully got upset by that. We'll have a decision soon. [/quote]
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