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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All of this is talk about CCL vs NCSL is preposterous based on my experience over the past three years as a parent of a U9 and u10 boy. With a few exceptions like Arlington Red, clubs vary immensely year over year (at least on the boys side ), including longer-standing members of the CCL, newer CCL members, VPL members and NCSL members whose top teams are usually in the first or second division). Individual teams change YOY, especially as stars leave for the DAs. I don’t see much value in these recurring discussions other than reminding me of how misguided some parents may be who think their children are not only joining a team but a club and league, as if the league makes your club, team or child a good player. And I have not really seen any persuasive points about intra league competitiveness. If you are a top team in either NCSL, CCL, or VPL, you won’t have much unless and until your child’s team plays the right bracket in the right tournament. And if you child is not on a top team, then being in any of these leagues is going to be fine for competitiveness. The most competitive league are in Maryland at the U8-11 range. We don’t have anything like those in NOVA[/quote] I don't think that it's about belonging to a specific league but to understand that their kid's team is in a league where they are going to find the best competition. I don't care which league they are in but that they can be in one that offers the most consistent competition. Not all the same teams/clubs are on the same level and agree that Arlington Red is consistently high quality. In my opinion there should be one VYSA league outside of DA broken up by districts with promotion/relegation so that all teams get comparable competition each week. [/quote] OK. There are two issues you identify: best competition and consistent competition. I think we I dealt with "best competition" in the post above. So, for example, I don't think Arlington Red boys in most age groups sees a difference between the quality of competition in CCL vs. VPL or NCSL Division 1 at most ages. Nor would PWSI's Nike Boys from 2008 see any differences between competition between NCSL and CCL. They beat pretty much everybody any time. And middling or lower tier CCL clubs would certainly not see material differences between the leagues, though the top one or two teams in CCL are likely to be better than top VPL teams in most years (not sure about NCSL Division 1). BRYC certainly looked at the landscape recently as a CCL team and left, despite or perhaps because of substantial success at the national level. (EDP and ENCL competition is obviously high and seems consistent). So what about the consistency of competition? Hard to measure, but arguably measurable. You'd look at spreads between lower and higher tier team records and goal differences across each of these leagues, and that would give you something of an answer. I am not sure it matters all that much. It is almost impossible to predict it for individual teams, particularly in Year Zero, but even in out years when you have more data about individual team performances. The teams themselves change rosters.[/quote]
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