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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Also, as for "drivers are a minority" - a lot of people can't drive. A third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. The majority of them are are disabled, lower income, unhoused, formerly incarcerated, undocumented immigrants, kids, young people, and the elderly. (Plus people like my parents, who are elderly, and do have a driver's license, but don't drive.) I don't know what the specific fraction is of DC residents who don't have a driver's license.[/quote] Of those people who are too frail to drive, how many of them can ride a bike? Probably not many. But they all need to be able to cross a street safely and that would be much easier with the curb bump outs that the bike lobby opposes. [/quote] There are a lot of reasons why people can't drive, besides being "too frail". Also the All Powerful Bike Lobby doesn't oppose curb bump-outs. But yes, people do need to be able to cross a street safely. One thing that really helps with that, as you point out, is fewer car lanes to have to cross. [/quote] ^^^Here's one example of designs for protected bike lanes that also improve access and safety for pedestrians with disabilities: https://walksf.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/getting-to-the-curb-report-final-walk-sf-2019.pdf Here's a design guide from the FHWA: https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bicycle_pedestrian/publications/separated_bikelane_pdg/page11.cfm Here's a project with protected bike lanes and curb extensions in Chicago: https://chi.streetsblog.org/2024/05/17/cdot-is-extending-avondales-popular-belmont-protected-bike-lanes-west-to-milwaukee[/quote] Thank you for these resources, its just a shame it was buried in pages of pedantic argument. If you were going to put lanes on Connecticut, then the bend-out options seem ideal. Good to see that the technical part of the problem has already been solved and just needs to be drag and dropped here. Interesting info-graph from the Chicago link: [img]https://lede-admin.chi.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2024/05/Screen-Shot-2024-05-17-at-2.09.47-PM-1.png?w=710&quality=75[/img] Explosive growth in shopping/dining and almost no growth in commuting. Reinforces what many have been saying. [/quote] Good on Chicago! This is a powerful illustration that more people will bike more when bike infrastructure is built out. DC’s network pales in comparison to what Chicago now has.[/quote] As pointed out above, you can't say "Good on Chicago!" unless you know the raw numbers. If you start with one cyclist and end up with two, you've doubled the number of cyclists, but the real number is still negligible. Figures like these are meaningless without the actual data. [/quote]
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