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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income. [/quote]

I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor students can't gain admission. You keep changing the subject and I will keep reminding.[/quote]

Before last year, they couldn't be admitted to TJ.  You apparently need to be reminded of that.  [/quote]

I am not sure there has been any verification of family income at TJ as being below $47k to determine percentage of low income students. [/quote]

They have farms data for every year. [/quote]

As has been explained a few times on this discussion,  FARMS data is totally corrupted by the way the question was posed by FCPS - even millionaire households could have legally opted-in to FARMS.  Any determination of low-income kids doing better under the new process is absolute fiction.  [/quote]

Ok. We do know that before covid and before the change there were practically no low-income students at TJ. 0.6% admitted for class of 2024.

So even getting a handful more kids from the unrepresented MSs or English-learners would have doubled the previous #s.

Yes, amoral parents may have selected “free lunch” so we don’t know the exact #, but it surely is greater than 0.6%.

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What is amoral is you making a conclusive statement based on unsubstantiated data.

The FARMS data is not reliable.  People called in to FCPS to ask whether anyone could answer yes to that question and they were told that they could say yes given how it was worded.  If the question asked was “were you eligible for free and reduced price meals last year?”.  And given Covid, everyone was eligible, I would answer “yes, I was”.  I would even argue that if I said no, I was misrepresenting under signature.

It was a massive $crew-up on the part of FCPS.  And now to claim that we have more FARMS kids with the new process is totally disingenuous.  [/quote]

We know that there were basically 0 FARMS students at TJ in previous years.

Now you're saying that ... what?  That that's a lie?  Who is disingenuous?  [/quote]

What I am saying that it could be zero, fifty or five hundred.  Neither you not FCPS can make a determination  of how many.

And if there is an increase from previous years then the credit should be given to the poorly worded question in the application and not to any reform process.

To claim that the reform yielded a better socio-economic class is a matter of faith or conjecture and cannot be established with objective metrics as presently collected by FCPS.  [/quote]

It is all PR and, as usual when it comes to FCPS's PR strategies, they over-reach.

If they really wanted to reduce the number of Asian kids and kids from the wealthy pyramids, they should have just done a lottery with seats set aside by middle school and trumpeted the greater geographic diversity.  Basically make TJ the FCPS equivalent of HB Woodlawn but with slightly higher minimum critieria.

No one really knows what TJ stands for now, it's far too contentious, and its reputation and appeal are already declining due to the controversy, fights, and lack of a clear message as to what FCPS is actually hoping to achieve. [/quote]

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