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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So not one person will think to herself...
Hmmm, if we have sex this weekend, we might make a baby. So maybe we better not, because we’re not ready for a baby.

Some of you are ridiculous with your narrative.[/quote]

Exactly. It seems that [i]personal responsibility[/i] is such a foreign idea to so many people today. Maybe they go into traffic behaving the same way; that if they take a wrong turn or misinterpret the traffic signs they should just be [i]allowed[/i] to kill other drivers [i]and[/i] be forgiven for it.[/quote]

Yo dumbass.  All the personal responsibility in the world isn't going to protect an underaged child from rape, isn't going to magically correct a fatal ectopic pregnancy or fetal brain defect.  Stop blaming the victims and forcing your uninformed, moronic idiocy on them.[/quote]

Pulling the rape card in front of well informed and prepared pro-life crowd makes you sound incredibly uninformed, intellectually lazy, and downright stupid. But for the millionth time here it is: we know from years of tracking abortions that less than 1% are done for rape/incest, small percentage are done for fetal/maternal health issues, and overwhelming majority (>90%) out of personal convenience. So, we have been arguing against the use of that majority out of convenience this entire time. We know that overwhelming majority of women in America with unintended pregnancies are not victims as you claim, they are willing participants in sex. Yes, we think that consenting adults have personal responsibility to prevent unintended pregnancy. But you just kind of parachuted stupidly in the midst of this discussion and think that calling someone names makes you look smart and informed. When you are too lazy to look up statistical evidence and find out what the discussion is really about you lose any credibility and sound like a moron that cannot be taken seriously.[/quote]

Those are stats from a very flawed, very limited, decades-old Guttmacher study.   However if you insist on using it then how about including one of their other key findings from that study, that 46% of abortions were due to not having contraception.  Now, correlate that with the 42% reduction in abortions in Colorado as a function of providing free contraceptives.

How about getting on board with providing free contraceptives to anyone who needs them?  That alone would have far better results where it comes to significantly reducing abortions than the idiocy and criminalization that the pro-lifers are trying to push.

Plus, it's fiscally responsible.  The Guttmacher study found that a large percentage of abortions were because the mother could not afford to have children.  That means WIC, likely food stamps, rent subsidies and other supports at great taxpayer expense that would be avoided.  Or the cost of giving the child up, which likely means putting the child into foster care because the reality of it is that there are nowhere near enough families adopting.  The cost of providing contraceptives for free is significantly lower than all of those social safety net services that would have to be provided.  Any fiscal conservative should be wholly on board with it.

Free contraceptives.  That is your best plan.  [/quote]

+1 I'm all for it. While we're at it, let's offer free sterilization to both men and women.[/quote]

Sounds good.

Sounds like a good component of quality health care. 
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