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[quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous]For the record, I actually enjoy your podcast and some of your material.  This thread is a pretty clear depiction of what is wrong with soccer in our area, the competition for our pocket books is much stronger than the competition to get good kids to develop.  Focus on names such as VDA, Loudoun, etc versus the merits of good training.  Open versus close leagues....etc.  I'm new to Barca and was lucky enough to have older kids go through some of the other clubs in the area so I have at least "a" perspective.  I'll repeat, BARCA is much more a school than a team that competes in XYZ league.  In fact, i think they would not have joined EDP if it weren't the obvious issues of attracting new players, kids our society want to compete, training and doing internal scrimmages is not going to bring in top talent.  Open market place and as consumers we get to choose, I would just leave it at that.  I don't criticize parents for staying with our old club or moving to other clubs in general.  Fact is, the club scene has not worked that well with most of your youth players not playing any higher than the U12-U14 level so if Barca has a system that "might" work....worth a look in my opinion.[/quote]

Thanks -- and yes, I think that's part of the problem. Whether it drove Barca to enter teams in EDP that might have better off in NCSL or ODSL, I don't know.

[quote]No, he didn't say "Several", he said "tons". You know the difference between several eggs and tons of eggs? And it was that choice of word that he used as the basis for his point about their game results. If your point is to state that the Barca coaching is not in fact worth $3000 then you would suggest that "even with tons of VDA players on the roster Barca teams still cant win". When THAT is your ultimate point then the hyperbole is not just a throw away line. It was the foundation to prove the larger point when the truth of a couple players wasn't as supportive of the narrative.

Again, had RSD used the same terminology it wouldn't be an issue. He admitted to the usage as being "harmless hyperbole" in order to exaggerate his point that the coaching at barca can't be worth a subjective amount in his mind. So he resorts, like many people to GotSoccer and tournament results as a lazy argument and attack on a very young program that EVERYONE has agreed has a shallow talent pool.[/quote]

The problem is that you assume that I'm attacking the club. I'm not sure how many more times I can reiterate that I'm not.

I saw several pages of posts had appeared since my last visit. The impression I got from those pages was people claimed Barca was attracting (I'll use that instead of "luring") talented players from other clubs. To me, those posts seemed boastful.

That's all.

If I have any criticism of Barca, it's that it clearly overreached in the league assignments of a couple of teams. Hopefully, that'll get sorted out over time -- maybe as soon as this spring. And they're certainly not the only people in the area who think their players are ready for a level of competition that's actually beyond them at the moment. Over time, maybe the teams that lost big in the fall will work their way back up and do pretty well.

I have no reason to think they won't. And no reason to think they will. We're talking about kids here. They're unpredictable.

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The following are your words:
[quote]"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?

I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."[/quote]

I'm pretty sure that is critical[/quote]

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