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I actually think it's telling that Cercei didn't seem that upset that he died.  Compare how upset she was over Geoffrey's death compared to Tommen's death.  I think that she liked that Geoffrey was ruthless, even if his sheer level of ruthlessness even surpassed her own.  I think she was actually kind of disgusted by Tommen's compassion and preference for nonviolence.  And I think she was even perhaps relieved that he was gone, because she could see he was not going to be the kind of king she thought he should be.

As for Jaimie, I think he is coming to see that Cercei is crazy.  Jaimie can be ruthless as well (let's not forget what happened to Bran), but Jaimie's character has grown.  I think he is also smarter than Cercei and knows that a ruler who is hated and viewed as crazy won't last long.  After all, Jaimie is the one who killed the mad king.  I think that scene where he looks at Cercei on the thrown is him starting to realize that Cercei is slightly (if not full on) mad.  I think he also might realize that she sent him away for a reason.  It will be interesting to see how they interact.  [/quote]

I think Cercei's non-reaction may simply be due to the fact that she has gone over the edge now.  Without her children, her last shred of humanity is gone.

I agree about Jamie having mixed feelings as he watched her in the throne room.  And Tommen was his child, also.  He also has lost all his children, children he never got to love and acknowledge as a father (other than Myrcella at the end.  That scene with Myrcella on the boat where they acknowledged each other was so moving.)  And Jamie, although capable of a lot of bad shit, is not as far gone as Cercei, so I agree it will be really interesting to see where their relationship goes.

[quote=Anonymous]I wonder how things will develop between Dany and Jon.  Even if it comes to light that Jon is Targaryen, I can't imagine she will readily believe it without seeing him survive fire or some such thing.  I don't think Jon is interested in the Iron Throne.  Perhaps they will negotiate something. [/quote]

Another piece of this puzzle is that Tyrion spent time with Jon on the journey to the Wall and then at the Wall.  Dany will likely hear about Jon from Tyrion, who came to like Jon (and Jon him) before Tyrion left.  And...Sansa was married to Tyrion in Kings Landing and he was just  about the *only* person there who treated her with kindness and respect.  So it is likely Sansa is predisposed to have kinder feelings towards Tyrion than most other people.  Having Tyrion as her advisor may color how Jon and Sansa see Dany.

[quote=Anonymous]But the real question in my mind is, what happened to Ghost?  I don't recall Ghost getting killed in any of the episodes.  Perhaps I missed something?

And will Nymeria come back now that Arya has returned?  [/quote]

I know!  I miss Ghost and have always hoped that Arya and Nymeria will be reunited.  Corny, I know.[/quote]

Just one of those things that impresses me about GRRM's writing -- how he put Tyrion in all these places -- like the Wall -- in the first book, knowing that it would be useful far, far in advance.  Like the name "Hodor" -- did he think about "Hold the Door" that long ago?  Makes you understand why he takes so long to write each book; he has to think 5 moves ahead.   [/quote]

It's taking him that long to write the books because he wandered off from his original plot and doesn't have the slightest clue what to do with the story.  He can't finish Winds of Winter, because he doesn't know where he is going.  He's going to wait for the TV show to finish it for him and then write the ending that they give him.

GRRM hasn't plotted anything out 5 moves in advance. If he had, his writing would be a lot less bloated and the books would be finished by now. [/quote]

Yeah, I think really elaborate/convoluted plot lines (in literature, tv, and movies) aren't a sign of good writing.  They're a sign of bad writing.  There's a balance.  You want some complexity, but when you make things too convoluted, it means you're trying too hard to make pieces fit.  This is a common problem in science fiction and/or fantasy writing.  Because there are no rules when it comes to the magical, the key to keeping those stories believable (despite being fantastical) is to have some discipline and stay within the parameters/rules you establish early on.  There are some elements of the plot that seem to be grasping at straws.  The horn thing seems to be a bit too obscure, even for GoT.

For the most part, I liked this season.  But I think that that was largely due to the production.  The scene with the Night King invading the tree was well done, and really it's because it was so well done that I was able to overlook all of the really problematic plot holes in that story.  The same with the battle of the bastards.  There were some holes in that, too.  Sansa should've said something to Jon about LF's offer.  There was no reason for her not to trust Jon.  I just don't believe that plot hole.  I also don't believe that Ramsey wouldn't have had more forces remaining to protect Winterfell.  He had the manpower.  He wasn't an idiot.  There's no way he would've left Winterfell that vulnerable.

And in ALL of those scenes, Ghost was nowhere to be seen.  As short on manpower as they were, I can't imagine Jon not keeping Ghost close.  Robb Stark always had Grey Wolf with him, and there was mention of all of the men Grey Wolf killed in battle.  I mean, I can understand not having Ghost charge initially because he would have been at a disadvantage with everyone on horses, but it just didn't make sense to not have Ghost in any of those scenes.  It would have been better (plot-wise) to have fewer Wun Wun scenes and at least have a scene with Ghost than to completely eliminate Ghost from the story.

But the initial battle scene itself was so powerful that I was able to look past that.

I actually didn't like the scene with Sir Davos and the Red Lady.  It was just too easy.  And it was not in keeping with Jon's view of justice.  He hung a child because that child attempted to kill him, but he lets the Red Lady go after she admits to burning an innocent child alive?  I mean, maybe you could say that he had to hang the child because the child would have continued to be a threat.  But that scene just didn't sit right with me.

I also don't think Sir Davos would have let it go down that way so easily.  He was ready to kill her, but he's cool with Jon just sending her away?  Also, Sir Davos knows what she is capable of.  He's seen her black magic.  He has to know that sending her away makes her potentially more dangerous.

And there were so many holes in the Westeros story.  First of all, Margery was smart.  There's no way she would have gone there without Tommen.  It also doesn't make sense that the High Sparrow thought that Cercei was just going to show up on her own, that any of them would have proceeded without getting her first.  I also don't see how the High Sparrow would have begun the proceedings without the King present, given how much fuss was made about their partnership.

I actually think it would have been better if Tommen arrived at the trial and Cercei had to choose between herself and Tommen -- and still chose herself, feeling Tommen had betrayed her.

Just my thoughts.

I'm excited about next season, but I suspect I'm going to be disappointed.  I think that in an effort to wrap it all up, there will be way more plot holes than in this season.

I forgot to mention that I was also really disappointed in Arya's story.  There is no way she would have survived that stabbing.  So many characters on the show died of lesser wounds.  They overdid that.  They should have made it a more believable wound -- something she could realistically have survived.  
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