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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's wonderful that colleges are generous with money and Pell Grants for those in need of financial assistance. I don't see how that factor makes a school more academically superior to any other school.[/quote]
It's easy enough to educate wealthy kids and to have them go on to high paying jobs and become movers and shakers.

Much harder to that for kids who don't come from wealthy families.  That's why IMO, that ranking kind of makes sense.  The vast majority of people in this country aren't from the 5%.[/quote]

So the bottom 95% gets financial aid? Good to know, we're 92nd percentile.[/quote]
no, that's not what I"m saying. The point is that a lot of the wealthy families (typical DCUM posters) don't care about how well a school can educate the non wealthy.   But, the vast majority of this country are not typical wealthy DCUM posters, and a ranking that looks like how well it can educate and provide a spring board for such students on towards a good career and future is much more applicable to the rest of the 95%ers than a ranking that purely looks at what $80K/year buys.[/quote]

Agreed.  And c’mon, the rankings used to be biased in favor of factors that favor small rich private schools and now the factors are more balanced.  Can anyone really quibble with a Berkeley or a UCLA being ahead of a Vanderbilt or a Wash U?  Really?  [/quote]

You must have gone to school in the west coast cause you sound quite provincial [/quote]

Not really.  From a research funding and breadth of excellence in graduate programs and faculty standpoint there is no way Wash U or Vandy can compare to Cal and UCLA.  So having this opinion is not "provincial".  [/quote]

Actually WashU had much more NIH funding than Berkeley or UCLA. [/quote]

Well Cal doesn't have a medical school so that may be issue with just limiting to NIH funding.  Here is a list of top R&D dollars at universities and half are public.  Vandy and WashU are 24 and 25, kind of where they should be, no?

https://universitybusiness.com/r-d-research-and-development-billion-dollar-top-30-college-university-higher-ed-spenders/
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Are you that dense?  You just proved my point. Top 30 R&D, quite prestigious ahead of MIT and Northwestern. Btw, don’t see your dream school Berkeley on it[/quote]

No need to get yourself into a tizzy. Just showing you that NIH funding is not the only research benchmark, lol.

You can feel free to think these (middling, IMO) fancy privates schools are so much better than publics (like UCLA and Michigan which are waaay above them on research funding) all you want. No one cares.  Someone has to be willing to pay for your precious Maddie or Cooper to go there.

No one would say WashU is a better school than Cal. Its just a preference of what kind of experience you want to have.

Godspeed to St. Louis![/quote]

Well that’s your [b]opinion based on your ignorance[/b]. You like to put down a school you know nothing about because of [b]your stupidity and unable to look at different points of views[/b][/quote]
dp... you don't see the hypocrisy there, do you?[/quote]

Cause there is none. The schools we are talking about are all great schools - for different students. Just because a public one went up on this ranking displacing a private one, doesn't necessarily make it better. And to throw out little insults thinking its smart and cute makes you look like a narrow-minded idiot.[/quote]

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