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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]You guys are truly nuts - please go and take your hydroxychloroquine.

There is no proposal to implement gentle density.

Just a report.

You can state it on here a hundred or a thousand times but it doesn't make it true.

If you want to discuss the report we can certainly do that.

But you are being dishonest with this nonsense that there is any proposal.[/quote]

The 'report' in its own words is a recommendation to the Mayor and itself for how to implement the new COMP Plan to do exactly what it recommends.

You can keep saying 'it is a report'. That is TRUE.
The report recommends 'gentle density'.
The report recommends that to the Mayor and itself. That is the ENTIRE purpose of the report. Otherwise OP simply would not have published it.

CONCLUSION
This report recommends that the District pursue gentle
density in single-family zones in a targeted manner that
prioritizes neighborhoods that are high-opportunity,
high-cost, or near high-capacity transit. An important
element of this recommendation is ensuring that
the District maintains and grows a supply of familysized units as land uses change from single-family to
multifamily.

That is the conclusion of the report. You can say it makes no recommendations, but its words say it does. You can say it never recommends 'gentle densification' but that is simply because you have not read the document and now are refusing to do so. We have been discussing the report for twenty pages or so, but you simply will not acknowledge that the report uses the words that it does or even makes a conclusion or even provides the Mayor a recommendation. I am not sure how we discuss this constructively when you will not even acknowledge the conclusions first paragraph.
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PP. You are debating against someone who is probably a lawyer and using a nuanced term of art here in order to maintain that he is 'factually' correct. That does not mean that he is correct about the 'argument' but he may be factually correct here.

The PPP is using the term 'proposal'. He is arguing that the Single Family Zone report does not make 'proposals' and you PP are stating that it makes 'recommendations', allowing the PPP to dance around saying that it never makes proposals. In a court of law PPP 'Proposal Guy' would win despite the fact that we know in this case that proposal and recommendation are being used to effect the same function (another term PPP 'Proposal Guy' likes).

So my recommendation would be to get off of the cogent argument that the Single Family Zoning Report states a 'recommendation' in its conclusion. PPP 'proposal guy' will simply say that is not a proposal of gentle densification, it is a recommendation only.

Try another reference from page ten of the same document. This states directly using PPP 'proposal guy's' favored terminology and goes further to say that it is the COMP Plan which incorporates gentle density:

"The Mayor’s Comp Plan Proposal incorporates gentle density throughout its policies by encouraging development that respects neighborhood character, while considering neighborhood priorities, such as affordable housing and public facilities (LU-2.1.3: Conserving, Enhancing, and Revitalizing Neighborhoods)."

Now maybe with the terms of art outlined, we can move beyond them and get back to the work of this 70 page thread.

PPP 'proposal guy' says that he is ready to discuss the document. Let's let him cast the first argument now we have put this behind us.

My popcorn is ready.[/quote]

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