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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero. [/quote]

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic. [/quote]

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door. 
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Then don't bitch when your partner strays or is disinterested. If you can't figure out a way to also nurture and cultivate your MARRIAGE, you deserve what you get. All of what you discussed are the fruits of that marriage--children and family time. Why do so many women (and I am a woman) think it's completely acceptable to make their life partner last on their list of everything? You can make fun of me all you want and mock me by writing "twoo luv" but that just tells me that you must be in a sad marriage. You can and should have true love and prioritize it and cultivate it. What, did you marry just to have a sperm donor? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic. [/quote]

Let me put it to you straight:  women put their partners last on their list because their partners put THEM last on their list.  When you abdicate your household responsibilities (like so many men do) that's putting your partner last on your list.  Men need to grow up and realize that they are managing a household TOGETHER and not expect that their juvenile fantasies will be automatically met. [/quote]
It is not a juvenile fantasy to expect a normal/regular sexlife. And if the man's contributions to household responsibilities are indeed the reason she doesn't want sex, she should be [u]telling him[/u] exactly that. I'm not hearing this from OP.

No doubt there are some men who do nothing around the house: shame on them!

Alot of women however lack the ability to walk away from (or outsource) household responsibilities that SHOULD BE ABDICATED.
If packing lunches uses up all available time, or exhausts you, to the point where sex is of the table, then give the kids $6 to buy their lunch.
Some women will NEVER prioritize the spousal relationship, REGARDLESS of how many household responsibilities the man takes on.
Her list is endless because "the household" is fundamentally more important to her than "the marriage" and, no matter what he does, she can easily invent new things that always take priority over couple time.[/quote]

Well, let's try an experiment.  Men: start doing 50% of the childrearing and household labor.  Then we'll see if women "invent new things".  (Don't forget that even if you don't pack lunch, you have to remember to sign them up online, fund the account, get the money back if it's  left over, cover preschool snack day, etc etc etc).  [/quote]

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