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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My mother lived in a refugee camp for her first 5+ years.  When it was clear her home country was not stabilized/safe, she was properly processed with her family into the US for which we are ever grateful. [b] I am not sure why people think the situation in Syria cannot be turned around and people go home to their farms and businesses[/b].  [b]Camps can be orderly, well run places with grocery stores, community events, schools, etc[/b]. Is it ideal? No. Should it be permanent like the Burmese in Thailand? No. But most of these people are economic refugees, much like the illegal immigrants who come to the US for economic purposes.  Pakistanis, Afghans, etc. unless they are fleeing a specific threat--ie they are from a minority religious group being targeted--should stay and invest in the countries. People from true conflict zones should be in protected no-fly camps until they can return home and rebuild.  The true travesty is that the refugee camps for Syrians appear to be far safer/more stable than the UN "protected' camps in Africa. Why not opening homes to South Sudanese etc? 
The solution is not open borders. It is safe haven camps that are truly protected, and political and economic and military investment in stabilizing the regions so people can return home to their cultures, communities and livlihoods.[/quote]
Do you think the Syrian refugee camps are like this?  They are not.  Plus, they don't see the Syrian conflict getting resolved anytime soon.  All you have to do is read the news.  You cannot be this naive.  ISIS is all over Syria.

There are UN soldiers who have raped women and children in refugee camps.  Those camps are not safe.  You are very naive.

So, you think they should wait it out in the camps?  If I were in their shoes, especially with young kids, I wouldn't wait it out.  I would want a chance for my kids.

Your mother lived in a refugee camp and then immigrated to the US, but you are saying these people shouldn't be able to immigrate like your mother did.  Why not?  [/quote]

No, they shouldn't. She was in a camp for FIVE years and her parents always LONGED to go back. Their lives were utter crap in the US - hard work, died young. Some.of the second generation did better - some flailed and failed (do you know the toxic behaviors in the east coast ghettos in which they lived? Alcoholism. Abject poverty. Abuse. The camps should have far better support in both Syria and south Sudan, rather than your rose colored glasses of open the doors to a 1st world country without providing long term integration support (a measly one year by volunteers is what people here get) and tackling the issues that caused people to flee because you in your elite NW DC castle think everything is here is perfecto. Of course as a second generation American I  love this country, and of course I think my family contributed, and I know I myself wouldn't be here had events not transpired as they did. But I'll tell you, had my grandma been able to return to her farm, piano teaching and books instead of life as a cleaning woman in the US cleaning up your grandparents office trash I'm betting she would have been very fulfilled.[/quote]

All you 'do-gooders' need to listen to the above PP. Her posts speak volumes. It's not ABOUT YOU. It's about quality of life for refugees based on what THEY desire. [/quote]
And you think the refugees desire to be fleeing their countries?  You think they would have a great quality of life in a refugee camp?

So, the PP knows that refugee camps are horrible, yet she thinks refugees should still be forced to live there because her mother and grandmother did?

You PP know nothing about me.  We are immigrants. My parents worked menial, back breaking jobs.  I don't see the world through rose colored glasses because I know what it's like to be dirt poor.  My parents didn't speak the language, and us kids were very young. They had a hard life, but you know what, they don't regret coming here *at all* because their lives and our lives here are ultimately better than what our lives would've been from where they left.

That PP's grandparent longed to go back. That's fine for her. \So we shouldn't accept refugees because she thinks their lives here would be utter crap .. compared to what?  A refugee camp?  You have to be kidding.  That PP is a hypocrite for saying it was fine for her parents to be accepted here as refugees, even if it is temporary, but we shouldn't accept others.  HYPOCRITE![/quote]

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