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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I don't see why you think that is paranoid. I only have to point you to our neighbor to the north, Canada, to show you exactly how it will occur. First they require registration, then they make a gun illegal based on some arbitrary standard, usually a knee jerk reaction to how a gun looks, next the owners receive a notification to surrender their now illegal guns. I am not paranoid if what I am fearful of is actually happening in a country that otherwise is very similar to our own. This is not just in my head, not a what-if scenario, it's actually what's happening. [/quote] My claims regarding Canada's confiscation of registered buns are true: http://www.winnipegsun.com/2014/03/05/rmps-arbitrary-gun-ban-is-frightening Why is it that people who share opinions like yours are always the ones that are not well informed of the relevant facts, and require spoon feeding of information. You'd think that since you are so passionate about gun safety, you would spend some time researching. ...[/quote] 2. You're lying, and you don't actually understand the situation in Canada. It took me less than 5 minutes to suss out the true facts there. I'm giving you one last chance to correct your false claims about the "Canadian gun ban" before I prove you're full of it. It's clear you just cherry pick random garbage from some gun blog, and you don't do any digging into what's actually happening. That's how you spout off random facts so often that don't make sense. [/quote] No one said you had to be fully versed in the history of Canadian gun law, but when you argue that registration will not lead to confiscation, you should at least be receptive to researching the issue when an example of such confiscation is provided to you. I am not lying about Canada. It's a simple case of exactly what I described: guns are registered, the government then makes illegal a gun model that was legally sold, and then proceed to confiscate guns using the registration information. Go ahead and offer your arguments if you have any.[/quote] You claim Canada arbitrarily made some guns illegal based on how they look, and confiscated them. This was based on the 2014 Op-Ed column you linked. If you actually knew what you were talking about, or if you'd bothered to spend 5 minutes looking further, you'd find facts like these ... 1. In March 2014, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) determined that one particular weapon - the "Swiss Arms Classic Green Carbine" - was a prohibited gun under Canada's existing gun laws, because it was too easily converted too [i]fully automatic[/i]. These are highly-specialized military-style weapons costing $4,000 or more, not your basic hunting rifle. 2. Why did the RCMP make this change? Ironically, it was because a Calgary gun store owner spotted a Carbine that came from his competitor, and he complained to the RCMP that it was prohibited as potentially fully auto. In fact, it seems these two gun store owners are having a business dispute, and they pulled the RCMP into their fight. "Bachynsky says Cox wanted to "interfere with our business." Cox, who admits "the guys at the Calgary Shooting Centre used to be my partners," said, "They've managed to portray me as if I'm the bad guy. But I'm not the one who brought in 16 prohibited firearms which started this whole mess." http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ban-of-swiss-arms-guns-sows-confusion-1.2562933 3. Nevertheless, the gun lobby in Canada freaked out. Within one week, a five-year amnesty had been established, which made sure that even in Canada, [u]no one's guns were ever confiscated[/u]. 4. By October 2014, a new law had been proposed that formally lifted any ban on the Swiss Arms Carbine. http://www.ammoland.com/2015/08/government-of-canada-lifts-ban-on-cz-858-swiss-arms-rifles/ 5. No one in Canada ever lacked the ability to buy stupid guns designed to let civilians pretend they are soldiers of fortune. http://www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-reviews/top-10-non-restricted-black-rifles-in-canada/ 6. The RMCP later confirmed through tests that in fact the Swiss Arms Carbine could be easily converted to full automatic, but because of the political firestorm, it will remain on the market. Canada is simply hoping that the technique will remain obscure because ... well, I guess they assume people won't look on the internet for it. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-tests-show-some-firearms-can-be-converted-to-fully-automatic-1.3284661 The guns that you dedicated "sportsmen" are trying to protect. [img]http://i.cbc.ca/1.2555847.1393625495!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/sig-swiss-arms-classic-green-rifle.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/CZ-858-Rifle.jpg[/img] So to sum up, you don't know what you're talking about, and you consistently are just making stuff up or cherrypicking misleading facts. That seems to be a common theme.[/quote]
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