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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a great question and has perplexed me forever. Why would anyone who is middle class or poor and in danger of losing a job or health care vote for the Trump. A rich guy who has gotten there on the backs of these very people, who will never think about them and only themselves. It is like they believe if they just get a guy in office that looks like them they will be just fine. Someone explain how people consistently vote against their own pay checks and families. Is it fear? Is it hatred? Who does this?[/quote] It’s quite simple, really. Many of us in the middle class realize that the more “power” we give to the government in taking care of us, the more freedoms we lose as a result. Like the ACA - we essentially handed over the power to the government to mandate health insurance for all, and in turn, gave up our freedom to choose what plan suits us and our families. Don’t need birth control? Too bad, you’ve got it. [b]And, you don’t have young kids who need dental coverage? [/b] So sorry, pal, you get it anyway. So, simply put, we value freedom more than we value “free things.” [/quote] ? [b] If you don't have young kids why are you getting coverage for young kids? And if you do have young kids, you do need some kind of dental coverage. [/b]That's crazy to think you don't. Hey, I hate that we have such easy access to guns, but sorry, pal, we get it anyways.[/quote] See, this is my problem with those people who are so gung-ho about the ACA. Pediatric dental coverage is REQUIRED for all ACA-compliant plans - whether you have children or not. Guess you didn’t know that. Makes me wonder what else you don’t know about it. [quote]Dental insurance, for the most part, isn’t covered under ObamaCare (the Affordable Care Act). However, children’s dental coverage is a required benefit included on all ACA compliant plans and cost assistance can be applied to any Marketplace plan that includes dental.[/quote] http://obamacarefacts.com/dental-insurance/dental-insurance/[/quote] Yes, but if you don't have children on your plan you don't get pediatric dental. Get it now? [/quote] I don't understand why this discussion of ACA is in this thread. It should be a thread all its own. I'd like to point out, though, that you are still paying for pediatric dental, even if you don't have children. You just aren't getting the benefit. The point people are saying is that because ACA plans have to include those things, they can't discount their plans for people who don't want that coverage. So if you are a man and get an ACA-compliant plan, the plan still includes pregnancy coverage, birth control, et cetera. You don't get a cheaper rate, even though you won't use those benefits because they are standard features of the plan. That's the point you are missing. The upside is that those features don't cost more if you do need them. For example, pre-ACA, a woman purchasing a plan on the open market would have to pay more for the pregnancy coverage. Now, she doesn't have to because it is standard. But the unintended consequence is that everyone pays more. It's not like the insurance companies just take a hit. The cost is just spread around. Where I differ with the people who are complaining about ACA is that I think singlepayer is a better option because it takes some of the power out of the hands of insurance companies, which are for-profit entities. [/quote]
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