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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That's nice. OP said Green Bay. [/quote] Yes, but some other idiot PP was dissing Milwaukee. I have to stand up for my hometown![/quote]Yep, stand up for your hometown! ~former Clevelander here[/quote] Former Detroiter here - I'm with you both! I'm sick of the Midwest stereotypes. [/quote] What do you think of the Detroit area and its prospects?[/quote] I'm the PP. It depends on what field you're in. [b]The job market is still not very good there[/b]. But it is kind of a cultural mecca. It's very diverse and people are generally accepting. There are lots of different cultural opportunities, varieties of food, music, museums, theater. It's a good place to be if you can find a good job. The COL is also low, which makes it nice. I live in DC because I'm a legislative attorney and can't find a job there (also DH is from here and wouldn't want to move). [/quote] Now that Chrysler is going to stop making cars and focus only on trucks and SUVs, the job market is going to get even worse. Next auto industry downturn, Chrysler gone and permanent 15% unemployment area. Also, a lot of people leave every Monday to work in another city so professional employment is not as good as job reports.[/quote] Detroit has a lot of challenges, and I say that as someone who lived there, goes back often, and actually cares about the city. First off, you have all the stuff that everyone knows - the city's footprint is too big for its current population, there are too many neighborhoods with only a handful of houses standing, and many of the city's citizens are undereducated, underserved, and angry. Then there's what people think they know - that there are young people flocking to the city, a great restaurant and arts scene, and a handful of neighborhoods that are being "revitalized." The problem is that those neighborhoods are pretty self-contained and it's not at all clear to me that the wealth coming into the city is being shared with its poorest residents in any meaningful way. It's also not clear that those people are going to stay. Detroit has basically zero public transportation options, and even the Big. New. Thing is basically a mile of light rail running up Woodward. The schools are a disaster, so if you have kids and want to stay in the city, you have a handful of choices (Waldorf, Friends, parochial). I hate charter schools, but Detroit doesn't even have the kids of good charter options that someplace like DC has, so you really are on the hook for private if you live in the city. But let's say you follow everyone else to the suburbs. The COL isn't so low out there, and you are completely reliant on your car unless you live in downtown Royal Oak, Ferndale, Canton, Birmingham, or someplace similar. Those are good options, but, again, not inexpensive. Finally, the jobs situation. It is hard to understand outside the area how utterly dependent everyone is on the auto industry. Not just the folks who work for Ford or a parts supplier, but everyone. Ad agencies, law firms, retail. That's why the slump hit the city so hard and I don't know that it can come back, particularly with the aforementioned shift in focus on the part of US automakers. [/quote] Agreed. It will be interesting to see what happens up north in the next 20 years. Like Detroit it seems like a lot more money and people coming in, who may not stay. It is sad because it has become a place Michiganders can afford to enjoy as much, perhaps because the money doesn't stay in the state.[/quote]
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