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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]FWIW, I don't have a particular dog in the fight.  Grew up in NYC but father is from Cleveland so have always gone out there and know the area reasonably well.  Have worked in Los Angeles, NYC, Detroit. and Atlanta.  Also spent time in Toledo, OH.

I agree that the places like Detroit and Cleveland have nice places and some progressive people.  Heck, even Flint, MI has nice suburbs, some upscale.  But there is no question that flyover country can be a massive culture shock.  My beloved cousins in Cleveland are great people, but there world is much more limited than the typical person in LA or DC.  Detroit?  Met some nice folks (disclaimer, went to U of M as a grad student and do not consider Ann Arbor part of Detroit area) but 96% of the people I met fit the description of grew up/married someone from/never traveled anywhere.  Again, perfectly nice but outside of sports not much to talk about.

Other side of the coin, yes people in coast cities can be pretentious asses but there is definitely a bigger interest in exploring life and meeting new people.[/quote]

Really? People in DC are more interested "in exploring life and meeting new people?"  Excuse me while I crack up laughing.  Many people here are very closed up and standoffish and they walk around like a bunch of robots--college, work, jobs, house, college, college, college, work, work, work, money, money, work out, college, work.  People are much more friendly in the Midwest and they tend to be involved in a lot of different activities.  They seem to enjoy life a lot more than people here, but that is my observation after living for long periods of time in both places, unlike this PP, who is working off of anecdotes from a few cousins.  PP assumes that because people here read "The Economist" they are "interested in exploring life."           [/quote]

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