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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Puhleeze, have you seen some of these 14-year old girls dressed up or down depending on how you look at it. They have more bust and backside than I ever had at that age and they show most of it to anybody who dares to look. No, they do not look 14 but 25. And yes, I was once a 14 year old girl, but I never hung out in the backstage concert rooms. Nor was I a groupie trying to find out how many rockers I could sleep with. This was the 70's and Bowie would have been what a youngish 20-something. He probably thought (if it happened as Bowie never confirmed and there were no cellphone cameras) she was a consenting 18+ year old.[/quote]

So, in general, a 14 year old girl whose body matures earlier than other girls her age and has parents who don't look out for her deserves whatever happens to her?
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If my 14 year old lied to me and said she/he was going to a movie but wound up at a college party where she willfully hooked up with a 20 year old guy and lied to him about her age and they wind up having sex....who is at fault?  Who is blameless?
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We have statutory rape laws to cover exactly this type of situation. 14 year olds do not have good judgement because they are... 14. There are big differences between a 14 year old and a 16 year old or 18 year old. That is why our society chooses to protect 14 year olds though laws.

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You are talking about The Law.  I was talking about *morally* who is at fault, who is blameless in that scenario?[/quote]

Yeah right. I mean, she totally asked for it right??

I hope you read what happened to her later in life. You are a pretty repulsive person to think child rape is ok.

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I was talking about a hypothetical example with simple "facts" not that particular situation with Bowie and the girl because I do not know enough specifics about what (if anything) actually happened. No - I do not think that child rape is ever o.k.  But I also can see where a troubled teen might be able to mislead someone into thinking that they are older than they are.  If a 20 year old guy thinks he is fooling around with a 19 year old girl because the girl has lied to him...to me that is a gray area.

If a 14 year old shows a really good fake ID to a store clerk and the clerk sells the kid beer...who is at fault and who is blameless?

If a 14 year old kid sneaks into a strip club and watches nude dancers...who is at fault and who is blameless?

You see where I am going with this.  If a reasonable person would think that the kid is an adult and the kid actually misleads people into thinking that he/she is an adult...and the kid did the misleading to get a particular result (sex, alcohol, whatever)...I have a hard time seeing that kid as an innocent victim.

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http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/music/david-bowie-and-the-15-year-old-girls-7962946
DAVID BOWIE AND THE 15-YEAR-OLD GIRLS

[quote]Maddox has repeatedly said in interviews that she met Bowie as a young teen and he asked her up to his hotel room. She was 14, and Bowie was in his mid-20s. Afraid, she declined. But five months later Bowie again propositioned her, and she and Starr went to his room.[/quote][/quote]

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