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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^^Whoops, wrong thread! So, in addition to the question, "Which "language-heavy" requirements are in the Common Core math standards? Could you provide some examples, please?", could you please also explain what kind of language requirements you would consider appropriate for standards in English/Language Arts?[/quote]

Just a handful:

CCSS.ELA-Literacy.SL.2.1
[b]Participate in collaborative conversations [/b]with diverse partners about grade 2 topics and texts with peers and adults in small and larger groups.

CCSS.ELA-Literacy.SL.2.1.a
Follow agreed-upon rules for [b]discussions [/b](e.g., gaining the floor in respectful ways, listening to others with care, speaking one at a time about the topics and texts under discussion).

CCSS.ELA-Literacy.SL.2.1.b
[b]Build on others' talk in conversations[/b] by linking their comments to the remarks of others.

CCSS.ELA-Literacy.SL.2.1.c
[b]Ask for clarification and further explanation[/b] as needed about the topics and texts under discussion.

For a child whose disability IS language, these are unattainable. [/quote]

It depends on the child.  The exposure from being in a classroom where this is happening is far more beneficial to my child who then picks it up vs. being in a basic classroom where he can be the top student as he knows all the material.  Its ok kids struggle.  That is part of learning.  They need to be exposed, encouraged and supported.  No, they may not be able to participate (mine cannot) but he's taking it all in and later when he can, he does.  It also takes a very good teacher to draw him out, which is a very rare teacher as most don't get it.[/quote]

As you said, it depends on the child. Mine child's issue is receptive language, and the way Common Core structures classrooms, he's not taking it all in. It's not visual enough and too loud and chaotic. [/quote]

My child is both receptive and expressive.  It does depend on the child but it also depends on the teacher.  The material and how it is implemented is the issue, not the standards.  We supplement at home using visuals or what ever we have to.  Our speech pathologist also works heavily on it.  We are at a small private as we knew loud and chaotic would be a disaster.  They do parts of common core and while he cannot express what he knows, he knows it if you take the time to figure him out.  My kid gets on overload with verbal instructions that are not clear and concise.  If he can read the directions and they are clear, it works.  If a teacher spends a few minutes explaining, he gets it (math teacher does not so she sends it home and we do it).[/quote]

I feel for your child. The issue you have is class size and mainstreaming. According to IDEA, children are supposed to be educated in the least restrictive environment-the regular education classroom. Beyond 1st or 2nd grade there is only 1 teacher in the classroom with 20-30 students. And students with special needs do not get their needs met.[/quote]

Our issues would have been the same common core or no common core.  At some point we will have to go public as our private stops at 2nd grade. I have mixed feelings about least restrictive.  While I like the idea of mainstreaming for socialization, for teaching it is not the best for many SN.  My child probably be one unnoticed in a classroom as he is not a behavior problem and will get lost.  Common core just sets the standards.  I actually like the vocabulary book based on common core we are using.  My main issue is they do not have parent classes so as a parent helping with some homework like math is difficult as I do not understand the strategies they want used.  My kid has to show me some.   I find the teaching style of some teachers our biggest issue.  I also find some teachers write my child off because he cannot express what they expect him to for his age.  Then, when he does well they act surprised and do not give him the credit he deserves.  I am, by no means a fan of common core but the standards are not the primary issue for language kids.  They need far more support and teachers understanding what having an expressive delay or receptive delay means and how it impacts a child.  These are not bad kids but it's like someone talking to you in a foreign language you do not speak.

The other issue is many of the SN kids who are not behavior problems fall through the cracks as the focus hoes to those struggling and behavioral problems.  I dread transferring my child to public before he is ready especially since we do not have an Iep in place and if he keeps progressing while most would say he needs it, depending on the test given one could say he's fine.  Several professionals have straight up told us the public schools will do nothing.  [/quote]

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