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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Hummingbird][quote=Anonymous]Personally, I wouldn't stick my fingers in or on my wife's vagina while she was sleeping. She likes her sleep too much. So, based on my knowledge of her, I know she wouldn't appreciate it.

But, to the larger point, the idea that couples have specifically hashed things out in advance just doesn't fit with the real world experience of (I would guess) most couples. For example, on the other end of the spectrum, I often scratch my wife's back without her consent. I like doing it. She seems to enjoy it as well. But, I've never asked. I don't specifically recall, but I imagine I just did it unannounced one day, she didn't recoil, and so I kept doing it. But I certainly wouldn't do that with a stranger. So, the prior relationship informed my impression of what she had consented to. Thankfully I was right.

Hands in the vagina of a sleeping woman seems a little far to me. But, I will admit that I don't know precisely where or why the line is drawn if hands in the vagina is on the bad side and scratching a back is on the good side. [/quote]

Err on the side of communication and knowing each other's boundaries. DH open to middle of the night advances, but I'm not pegging him in his sleep as my sexual foreplay. Come on people. [b]This is rape. Black and white[/b].[/quote]

Bottom line. I can't believe how many people here are cool with entering an unconscious woman.[/quote]

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