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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Do you support Bernie Sanders? You stated in past posts you do. Bernie is a socialist. Socialism is not part of our founding documents. 
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I support Bernis Sanders. Sanders calls himself a socialist. Most actual socialists would have a good chuckle about that. "Socialism" in its strictest sense designates a relationship to the means of production. People such as yourself tend to use the term to describe any government program that you don't like, or if you are making an effort, any government program that involves redistribution of wealth. The US income tax system involves the redistribution of wealth. That has been found to be constitutional. Therefore, government programs that involve the redistribution of wealth are not inherently unconstitutional. "Socialism" as a socio-economic-political system didn't exist at the time of the Constitution and, therefore, couldn't be addressed. But, ownership by groups, communities, and the government has been found to be constitutional. So, I am a bit baffled about what you believe to be unconstitutional about the socialism. Nevertheless, even if the Constitution prevented socialism, much like it prevented female suffrage and allowed slavery, there are legal means to change it. So, even in that case, supporting socialism would not mean an unwillingness to support our laws.

As for Bundy, you have lots of excuses for his lawbreaking. You are welcome to all the excuses you can invent. It is still hypocritical to defend law breaking in the same post you accuse someone else of supporting law breaking.
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I would not vote for someone who doesn't understand who he is. Or wants any part of socialism. [/quote]

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