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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Who's proposing "Venezuela?"

Nobody.

Pretty idiotic statement to say "See Venezuela, how's that working out."[/quote]

Really?  I've heard 'the Government can crush you', 'the benevolent government gave out that land', etc.  Clearly, no one understands that the more that's under government control, the more power the government has over you. [/quote]

What would you have proposed to be done with land captured from the Mexican government? It was transferred to US government ownership and then leased to others. What arrangement would you propose that is better than that?
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Do I want to argue with someone who supports a socialist for President?  No. Your judgement is already poor.

Suffice it to say, Harry Reid could have easily fixed the Nevada land issue and didn't. Which tells you all you need to know[/quote]

Translation: I actually can't think of anything to say so I am going to cast about ad hominems and blame Harry Reid. Guess what? Cliven Bundy could have easily fixed it as well.
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We were TALKING about Nevada land and the Feds vs State. If you look it up, Bundy was willing and had been paying taxes to the state until they refused to take it. Again, Reid could have fixed the problem. How much of the land in Nevada do the Feds own, Jeff? More than 50%? 70%?

Sanders is a self-admitted socialist. You support Sanders. You are more than a big government guy - you want a government takeover via socialism. It's people like myself that want to maintain our Constitution and our law.  Truth is truth. [/quote]

Are you implying that I don't want to maintain our Constitution and our law? That is not "truth".

If the state says it doesn't own the land and the Federal government says it doesn't own the land, who is Cliven Bundy to say who owns the land? What difference does it make to him to whom he pays? How can you support his law breaking while implying that I don't support our laws?
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Do you support Bernie Sanders? You stated in past posts you do. Bernie is a socialist. Socialism is not part of our founding documents.

Educate yourself Jeff. See the bigger picture:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/04/30/cliven-bundy-is-a-racist-but-federal-ownership-of-state-land-is-still-a-serious-problem/

[i]That’s where Cliven Bundy comes into the picture. Bundy failed to pay federal grazing fees for two decades and was, therefore, in violation of federal law. Bureau of Land Management officials secured a court order to round up the cattle Bundy let graze on federal lands.

Yet, although Bundy’s family homesteaded the land more than a century ago, Bundy was willing to pay grazing fees to the BLM until the Bureau demanded he not graze his cattle in springtime. That’s the only season cattle can gain weight on a desert range. As Las Vegas columnist Vin Suprynowicz reported, the Bureau flew in the face of existing research when it imposed the requirement in order to protect the habitat of the desert tortoise.

The federal government, in short, chose to privilege the tortoise over the long-established livelihood of Bundy and his family. As Bundy told reporters from Range magazine in 1999, “Every time we tried some compromise—they wanted more. It was like talking to a greedy landlord.”[/i]

The above is precisely why I think progressivism is a cover for socialist.

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