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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm Catholic.  I had a full term stillborn child.  Was that God's plan? I don't believe it was.  I think we live in a broken world where bad things happen to all people, and you yourself being "good" or "bad" has nothing to do with it.  I don't believe God causes bad things to happen.

In the wake of my stillbirth, I believe God used other people to comfort me, heal me, and love me.

That doesn't mean I wasn't furious with God.  I was.  And I think God understands and forgives me for that.

I don't know how or why God answers or doesn't answer prayer.  I prayed for a healthy child.  After I lost that child, I realized maybe I was treating God like some kind of Santa Claus- be good and God will give you good things.  I don't think it works that way.  I think God gives us strength, grace, and wisdom when we ask for it to help us deal with life's hardships and devastations.

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Thanks for sharing this beautiful and mature description of faith.  I'm so sorry for your loss, PP.  Peace to you. [/quote]

James 1:2-4

2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters,whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3 because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. 4 Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.

As the pp said...we live in a broken world...the word teaches the way to not only weather the storms but how to use those storms to become stronger. An old proverb, it's in various forms depending on the culture...says...a smooth sea never produces a skillful sailor.

Based on the verses above, along with others, God isn't going to put bad things in your life, but he will help you navigate (and that includes the love, kindness and wisdom of others as the pp shared) and knows you will never be fully who you can be, unless you persevere.[/quote]

God made the world - did he break it too?  or did humans do that, and if so, what was God's purpose is letting that happen?  How do you know that God doesn't put bad things in your life but helps you navigate?  It sounds like another case of giving god credit for the good things, but absolving him of the bad things, even though he supposedly created everything.[/quote]

Read Colum McCann's [u]Let the Great World Spin[/u] -- again, God is not a puppetmaster and we aren't puppets [/quote]

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