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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I'm sorry but if a guy says "you don't love me if you don't have sex with me", that is NOT rape. That is such a ridiculous statement. As a rape victim I'm disgusted. [/quote] It sure is coercion, though. Is consent possible, if there is coercion? (And what do we call sexual contact without consent?)[/quote] Yeah, I'm grossed out by people picking apart what constitutes rape. We as a society are FINALLY getting somewhere with teaching guys and then you have people poo-pooing other women's coercion. ANd yes, it most certainly can be rape to be told to have sex OR ELSE. Forcing someone to have sex with them when they don't want to is not healthy consent, that is for sure, and I am agog that it's being justified here. Gross. [/quote] It may not be healthy consent, but it is NOT rape. [/quote] OR ELSE what? or else he breaks up with her? And that is rape? give me a break.[/quote] I always thought it meant - "Have sex with me or I will beat you/kill you" or some other horrific thing. - RAPE I don't think anyone is saying - "Have sex with me or I'll break up with you/I'm leaving/I won't take you to prom" is considered rape. A gray area might be driving a woman to a remote location, at night and saying - "I'm not taking you back home until you have sex with me". In fact, I don't even think that's a gray area....that would be an assault.[/quote] but that is exactly what people are arguing.[b] There is a case going round now where a woman is trying to petition in cases where women have sex in situations where they agreed, but then regretted the sex after, there's rape. Or if they had rape under circumstances where they thought one set of assumptions (e.g. th eguy was rich) and then found out later it wasn't [/b]Noone is arguing if a woman had sex where she was threatened with violence that is not a straightforward case of rape.[/quote] What? No, just no. Regretting sex is not rape. Assuming a guy is rich and he isn't is not rape. You may be seeing this petition, but that is not what sane people think. What sane people are upset about is the fact that most rapes don't even get reported because it is terrifying for the woman to even think about going on trial. Sane people are upset that way too many men think fucking an unconscious woman is no big deal. Sane people are upset that women are often not believed. Can we get back on topic because nobody HERE is arguing about someone saying a guy was rich and he wasn't and that's rape. That is ridiculous. [/quote]
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