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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most of you posters are complete idiots. You focus on the "race card" that is played by black people that are lazy or criminal etc., while not understanding that the real inequality is out there for the black people who do not fit into those neat little categories. You want to ignore the fact that ALL black people face these racist situations and are subject to racist treatment, regardless of their work ethic or status in life. Don't presume to know the struggle of hardworking black men and women who face prejudice and racism despite their efforts. That is the real problem with saying that people just need to get over it and move on.

I am an educated black women, I get up every day and I go to work and do my job just like white people. My child does not misbehave, have a "ghetto" name and/or live up to any of the other stereotypes about black males. Yet, we still don't have equality in many people's eyes. I have seen my child be called to time out for playing in the exact same manner as a white peer. But for him "he's been too rough". I have been presumed to be a certain way or to have had certain experiences solely because of my skin color. I have co-workers and supervisors say things to me about "my people" without any knowledge or care of my actual background.

When some white people stop painting all black people with the same broad brush, then you can holler about race card and affirmative action etc. I can guarantee that not one white person on this thread would like to switch bodies with a black person despite all of these so called "advantages" that we have. Better yet, have your son switch places with my son, they'll both be the children of upper middle class parents, with a solid home life, a good education and an expectation to do well. But the expectations for them will be vastly different based solely on the color of their skin. [/quote]

Great post.  Unfortunately, people are not going to even try to understand what you are saying.

See, like the professor, they have held up Asians as the model race and beat us over the head with them, ignoring the fact than many Asian communities (especially those comprised of Southeast Asians) have college attendance stats that are worse than Latinos and Black communites of similar SES.  So just as all AA's are not the same, all Asians are not the same either.

But this whole Affirmative Action argument underscores Whites' negative obsession with AA's.  At most PWIs, the AA student population is less than 10%. So Whites are willing to scuttle a system that still gives them an advantage in favor of a race neutral system that will ultimately harm them - all because up to 10% of a college student body are AA's.   IT would be funny if it were not so pathetic.

Oh and my middle DD attends a school in California.  Actually, Whites out there are VERY vocal that Asians have taken up most of the spots in certain schools out there.  [/quote]

It's not a question of who benefits or not. It's the knowledge that giving people an advantage or disadvantage simply based on their skin color is wrong and racist. If Asians benefit from that and everyone else loses then so be it. They deserve what they have earned on merit. Everyone does.[/quote]

I guess....it will be interesting to see how it plays out in the long run.  Whites say that now because it is purely a philosophical discussion.  But a lot of you will not feel that way when it all plays out.  It is already rearing its head - look at the both of the long threads about Asians suing Harvard. They get to be pretty lowkey racist.

The one thing that AA's have in their favor is that they have a parallel higher education system that evolved as a result of discrimanation.  Dismantling Affirmative Action would require states to increase funding to those schools in order to counter the disparate impact of revoking a holitic admissions policy in their flagship state schools.  The average joe is unaware but many state governments are already discussing these types of issues.  It does not matter at Harvard, but it might matter at UNC or Uva or many states with top flagship public U's and HBCUS. [/quote]

http://time.com/2907332/historically-black-colleges-increasingly-serve-white-students/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marybeth-gasman/being-white-at-a-black-college_b_1713729.html

I think it is great that more non-Blacks are attending HBCUs.  Increased diversity, no matter the institution, is important.  [/quote]

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