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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is as bad as the pretty thread
For goodness sake don't call yourself ugly![/quote]

How about "not physically attractive?"

[b]It's weird how much importance people place on [b]beauty in women[/b][/b]. If someone said "I'm not a good cook" you wouldn't be throwing such a fit.

I'm not pretty.  I'm 46, 60 pounds over weight. I have lots of worry lines and laugh lines. I have a thin mouth, a snub nose, and my eyes are to small. My face is too round. My hair is a disaster -- thin and curly. I have the wings on the top of my arms. I have a belly from having kids.  I'm apple shaped. I wear glasses because I can't wear contacts anymore.

I am ugly.  I am also smart, kind, and funny.  I work hard. My kids adore me. My husband loves me.

Pretty isn't everything. [/quote]
This is not a matter of the importance placed on beauty, it's about the importance of  how we view ourselves. I was not commenting on how other people view you, I was commenting on how YOU VIEW YOU! You have evidently internalized the societal beauty standards you feel people have placed too much importance on, you have internalized them and find yourself lacking. I say you should say "bullshit" to that. Sure there are days I feel I look like a hot mess, and days I feel like I look great. 
Honestly, I have found that most people who others call "pretty" are a MAJOR combo of CONFIDENCE and being PUT TOGETHER WELL. Confidence can mask a whole host of imperfections, but it cannot do anything for you if you don't have it and exude it. All I am saying is be kinder to yourself, from what you post you have a multitude of blessings -- let that be your guide, not the ways you pick physical self apart. [/quote]

You're getting to the heart of what's crazy about it. I posted a "multitude of blessings" and say I'm okay with not having the blessing of physical beauty. You chastise me for an honest appraisal and tell me to try harder.

I'm satisfied with myself. I'm not lacking confidence in myself.  Acknowledging that I am not pretty and that is not important is not a lack of confidence. It's a wealth of confidence in the fact that my value as a person doesn't depend on my physical appearance. [/quote]

Ok -- let me try again so that you can possibly better understand my point:

1) Physical beauty is SUBJECTIVE

2) Calling yourself UGLY is a negative, subjective evaluation of yourself. PERIOD

3) Having a positive view of your physical self in no way translates into only seeing your value in how you look -- that is your preconceived notion and has ZERO to do with what I said

4) Why in the HELL are you fighting so hard to hang on to the label of UGLY?[/quote]

Why do you care so much that everyone thinks of themselves as "pretty?"[/quote]

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