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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.[/quote] Of course they have freedom of speech.[/quote] No, they don't. See Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier.[/quote] Not to mention Morse v. Frederick (the "bong hits 4 Jesus" case): http://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/get-involved/constitution-activities/first-amendment/free-speech-school-conduct/facts-case-summary.aspx[/quote] Really hope you are not a lawyer. I expected a higher level of legal discourse on DCUM somehow.[/quote] Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier and Morse v. Frederick are two Supreme Court cases about the limits of free speech in schools. I am not a lawyer. Could you please explain to me what is wrong about referencing these two cases? [/quote] I'm the one who posted the Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier cite, which is very meaningful to me since it happened while I was a high school newspaper editor. My own take is that the extreme right-wing people who lead the charge against Common Core/PARCC is an inherently strident bunch incapable of critical thought. It goes with their Tea Party sensibilities. Opposition to CC and PARCC is pretty much exclusively a Koch brothers product, after all. So, you often are greeted with dismissive yet incoherent comments when you post a proof point. They don't want to hear it. The OP of this thread -- who is probably a Bible-thumping right-winger who resents Common Core because it denies Creationism -- hoped to stir outrage. But in order to be outraged, you have to first accept a couple of flawed premises: 1) That PARCC tests are bad; 2) That students should be able to post whatever they want on social media without consequence; and 3) That Pearson has no right to monitor social media for commentary about itself or its products. In other words, the entire thread is a straw man.[/quote] You like your stereotypes, don't you? Sorry to burst your bubble. I am OP and very left wing. Too bad you didn't learn anything from your high school journalism days about free speech and true critical thinking. Common Core started from right wing business types like Jeb Bush who want to make our American kids little worker bees who don't question anything. How much more Big Brother can you get that what Pearson is doing spying on kids? Get off your knees worshiping corporations like Pearson and stand up for America's children, who deserved to be treated as individuals, not cogs in the American business machine. [/quote]
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