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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Uh, I guess you don't know much about helicopter and tank warfare, but yes, we can hold them off just like we helped the mujahideen do it in the 70s. You sound drunk, so when you sober up we can discuss it in more detail. [/quote] Your use of "we" makes me think you're the one who's high on something. YOU can hold them off? Take that little three-point hat off your head, it makes you look even dumber than you are. Russia isn't exactly short on tanks or helicopters. And more importantly...is Afghanistan better off, now that "you" helped the majahideen? Yes, I know, you left behind such a flourishing country, the envy of the whole neighborhood. Ukraine must be positively clamoring to end up exactly like Afghanistan. [/quote] You are long on insults, short on data. And "we" is the United States government. And yes, there aren't really many good countermeasures for good AGTMs these days. And that plus their slow speed is why tanks are becoming obsolete. Which is why they are laying people off at the Bradley and at the M1 Abrams factories. This is really basic stuff.[/quote] I'd like you to address the main point - you think Ukraine is eager to be your next Afghanistan? Really? Because clearly, "your" intervention made things so massively better for that country, didn't it?[/quote] Since neither I nor anyone here offered up that main point, I see no reason to address it.[/quote] Actually, you did, but it's entirely possible you haven't thought that all the way through. It's been known to happen. You said "we" can hold them off just like we helped the mujahidden in the 70s". Presumably, you'd do it to help the victim party in your mind, i.e. Ukraine. Actually, "you" would do it to advance what you foolishly think are your interests, but we'll leave that aside for now. I responded, quite reasonably, by pointing out that whatever you did to "help" the mujahiddeen didn't work out all that dandy for the country in which you did it, i.e. Afghanistan. What makes you think Ukraine is eager to follow that path? But it's entirely possible this was too quick a line of thought for you. That, too, has been known to happen. [/quote] Wow, that's a whole lot of crazy in that post. I am going to have to leave much of this aside because (1) I never spoke about which side I even said was right in the conflict, nor did I speak about "my" interests. I merely made a comment about how one could handle the soviets. As for the mujahideen, I mentioned this only as an example. I did not say that in every single way the plan would be the same. This should be clear to you because the soviets do not occupy Ukraine, nor have they installed a government sympathetic to them, nor are the Ukrainians a tribal resistance movement operating out of the mountains. But since you seemed so intent on understanding how to stop Russian tanks, I told you. I am getting the idea that you don't know the first thing about war. You seem mostly a person who likes to argue points with insults, and you don't stop until the other poster tires and goes away. [/quote]
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