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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think a believer should hold contempt for anyone simply because they reject God. Absolutely, it is possible to live in harmony with disbelievers or unbelievers. The accounts of NDE patients have been corroborated by the attending doctors or surgeons, and sometimes while they were in different rooms. Blind people are describing things they have never before during a NDE. Children generally don't lie about such experiences and have had NDE, reporting information that can not be explained. Even atheists have reported NDE's, albeit their experience wasn't as rosy, but in fact horrifying. Deja vu and lying can not explain thousands of NDE experiences. Telepathy, which NDE'ers say they had, still can not explain how blind people "see" when having a NDE. [b]1. The fact that wrongdoers sometimes have terrifying NDE experiences in what they describe as hell lends credence to the concept of a God that follows through with his promise to punish wrongdoers. [/b] [b]2. If we can admit that something is happening that science does not have the tools to explain, then we should at least be able to admit to the possibilities of various other nonscientific explanations.[/b] The existence of a soul or a God is one such explanation. It would be biased to consider other nonscientific explanations but not the explanation of a God or the soul. Admittedly, my own mind spins when I imagine a supreme creator. How did He come to be? How can He manage the billions of people and so many successive generations? I trust that there are answers to these questions but I do not have the ability to understand right now. 1. no - it could mean they are feeling guilty and it comes through in their dreams 2. no --if we start out noticing the limits of science, the next logical step is to imagine how science could solve the issue, not to presume a non-scientific explanation. If people had done that through the ages we would have assumed a lot of things came from God and would not have found their scientific roots. Of course, individuals, can think whatever they want, but rejecting a non-scientific method is not "bias" - it's just using scientific thinking. [/quote][/quote] If you watch youtube videos of wrongdoers, you would see that they had absolutely zero guilt prior to their NDEs. In fact, they were quite confident and even arrogant. Why insist on their remorse when they professed none? As far as explanations go, religion does not see a clash between it and science. If science can not explain, we assume it simply does not have the means at the time. If science can not explain NDE, it doesn't logically follow to deny they exist or are real. Moreover, to suggest NDE'ers had a dream when they know it wasn't is pretty insulting to them. I know many atheists are intelligent, but there are many equally intelligent NDE'ers. Remember their surgeons often validate the NDE experience. Some NDE'ers were physicians themselves. [/quote]
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